1 week in on RPN Havoc and my head wants to explode....

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    1 week in on RPN Havoc and my head wants to explode....


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    I'm 1 week in on epistane. Planning to do a 20/30/30/40 or 20/30/30/30 depending on how I get on with it. All was ok until 3 days ago when I got a headache at the gym, then yesterday I got a headache with the gf in the bedroom and today I got a headache when I lifted off on the bench (chest day).

    I know higher bp is a ph symptom but this is worrying me. I think results are just a few days away but don't want to have to stop due to headaches. They're pretty intense but don't last too long...I just don't want to drop down dead.

    I'm using milk thistle / creatine / taurine currently and even have a beta blocker as an anxiety thing which is prescribed for hypertension anyway. I've upped water intake and I eat pretty clean anyway.

    I've got clomid and erase for PCT incase I have to stop the cycle. It's my first cycle of anything and so far has been side free apart from the headaches and increased libido.

    Any ideas if this will pass or do I stop the course?

    BTW i'm 29 before I get flamed to death

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    Worthless cycle you got laid out there. Run it for 6 weeks at higher doses than what you have there or your waating time & money. Also, at those little doses, I doubt the headaches are from epistane (also your only in week 1?)..the majority of ph's are garbage anyway-way to many sides compared to the slight gains youll get. Not even worth messing with tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabulu View Post
    Hi

    I'm 1 week in on epistane. Planning to do a 20/30/30/40 or 20/30/30/30 depending on how I get on with it. All was ok until 3 days ago when I got a headache at the gym, then yesterday I got a headache with the gf in the bedroom and today I got a headache when I lifted off on the bench (chest day).

    I know higher bp is a ph symptom but this is worrying me. I think results are just a few days away but don't want to have to stop due to headaches. They're pretty intense but don't last too long...I just don't want to drop down dead.

    I'm using milk thistle / creatine / taurine currently and even have a beta blocker as an anxiety thing which is prescribed for hypertension anyway. I've upped water intake and I eat pretty clean anyway.

    I've got clomid and erase for PCT incase I have to stop the cycle. It's my first cycle of anything and so far has been side free apart from the headaches and increased libido.

    Any ideas if this will pass or do I stop the course?

    BTW i'm 29 before I get flamed to death

    Thanks
    Sounds like high BP. Few things you can do is start using hawthorn berry, celery seed and even COQ10 and dose them high to start. Maybe even a small dose of ibuprofen a day till things subside And the other guy is right, you'll have to extend your cycle to 6wks and up the dosage to at least 45 and beyond
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    I read good things about epistane on a 4 week cycle for lean gains but will have enough for an extra week I think. Cheers for the advice. Will get bp checked tomo...probably a little high but hopefully more of an inconvinience than alarm bells for a heart attack!
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    Quick fix donate blood. Get your bp checked.
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    dosage and length are not high/long enough to really reap the benefits
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    Add in a week 5 and maybe 6.

    Get BP checked and throw in some support.

    Up your fish oil intake.

    Cut some salt out

    Drink more water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpHouse View Post
    Add in a week 5 and maybe 6.

    Get BP checked and throw in some support.

    Up your fish oil intake.

    Cut some salt out

    Drink more water.
    More water more fluids more blood pressure. It is the reason you cut out salt, it pulls water into the blood, this is why diuretics lower bp.
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    Get Hawthorne Berry and Omega 3 immediately!
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    200mg coQ10 was all i needed.
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    True but dehydration won't allow the kidneys to pass enough sodium out through urine. So it's kind of a double edged sword I guess. A balancing act. OP how much water are you consuming daily?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman_777
    Worthless cycle you got laid out there. Run it for 6 weeks at higher doses than what you have there or your waating time & money. Also, at those little doses, I doubt the headaches are from epistane (also your only in week 1?)..the majority of ph's are garbage anyway-way to many sides compared to the slight gains youll get. Not even worth messing with tbh

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    Complete garbage.

    Op shouldn't be using steroids to begin with.
    If he insist, should def be using cel cycle assist
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    Whats youre history wit the beta blockers are you usin them while on cycle? Jus unclear
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    Hi

    Been on propranolol for about 11 years for anxiety but it's completely bp unrelated. As for water, about 3-4l a day i'd say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kabulu View Post
    I read good things about epistane on a 4 week cycle for lean gains but will have enough for an extra week I think. Cheers for the advice. Will get bp checked tomo...probably a little high but hopefully more of an inconvinience than alarm bells for a heart attack!
    No I remember when I was younger and thought my first cycle, a 4 week epi cycle, was going to get me gains. It didn't. Run it 40mg for six weeks. Go ahead and order that extra bottle.
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    Celery seed extract and garlic extract both helped with my bp.
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    Go and get yourself a bp monitor...it's about $40 and it's very useful. I don't understand people running epi at this lil dosages. I've run epistane 6 weeks at 40mg ED without problems. Next time i'll go 50 or 60.
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