[MANotaur]

anybody heard of this?? I ended up with a random workout buddy, and the dude was an ox. After admiring his strength and appetite (he pounded two 32 oz mass gainers immediately after his workout...it was amazing) we naturally moved onto the topics of anabolics. He told me he only did like 2 or 3 "cycles" and now all he does is cruise on 300mgs of test and 300mgs of EQ a week. Hes been doin this for about 3 years now

I have never heard of this but its working for him...and naturally, now that im on eq for the first time it got me thinking lol.

the dude is jacked...like 6'2 and 265 and 8% bodyfat jacked. The dude eats w/e the hell he wants, he keeps it clean about 75-80% of the time (his words) and lifts about 4 days a week.

If hes gotten this kind of results, why doesnt more people cruise on low dosed eq?? It doesnt seem all that hard and its a hell of alot cheaper than some of the other stuff? Is he a genetic mutant maybe?? I dunno but i was like whoa...thats a hell of a lot easier than cycleing.

Im not planning on doing it, at least not now. but im sure that i will be on TRT at some point in the future and if i am, maybe ill throw it in.

I just wanted to get everybody elses thought on the matter! has anybody else heard of this or anything else similar?

[MANotaur]

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Really?? Nothing on the subject??

~ MANotaur

[Gerbil]

louie simmons has cruised on eq and deca for years. Some people cruise on deca and test, I dont see why someone could not cruise on eq and test.

[MANotaur]

That's what I was thinking! It's cheap, always available if I need it, not very readily aromatized, sides are extremely low, it really sounds like the perfect match to cruise on test with!

I'm think maybe I might try it in the future! I love it! I'm so glad I went with if on my second cycle. I'm gonna look more into it! Any body else have any input ??

~ MANotaur

[hardwork25]

That's what I was thinking! It's cheap, always available if I need it, not very readily aromatized, sides are extremely low, it really sounds like the perfect match to cruise on test with!

I'm think maybe I might try it in the future! I love it! I'm so glad I went with if on my second cycle. I'm gonna look more into it! Any body else have any input ??

~ MANotaur

This plus:

I wonder if the EQ allows him to always be hungry hence able to down multiple 32oz shakes after a workout. If your always hungry it's not hard to consume enough calories to be 265+.

[Gerbil]

I could picture that really messing with your bp.

[MANotaur]

I could picture that really messing with your bp.

It could, but if you took proper measures, ie donate lots of blood, controlled stress, or even got on a bp med, then I think it would be ok?

~ MANotaur

[MANotaur]

This plus:

I wonder if the EQ allows him to always be hungry hence able to down multiple 32oz shakes after a workout. If your always hungry it's not hard to consume enough calories to be 265+.

I'm sure! Eq hunger is insane! It's really a different feeling than just skipping a meal hungry.

What I thought was most amazing wasn't his weight, ( which was still huge and amazing) but he is 6 ft plus, so higher weights are easier to obtain. But how lean he was with the amount he ate and his said diet

~ MANotaur

[hardwork25]

I'm sure! Eq hunger is insane! It's really a different feeling than just skipping a meal hungry.

What I thought was most amazing wasn't his weight, ( which was still huge and amazing) but he is 6 ft plus, so higher weights are easier to obtain. But how lean he was with the amount he ate and his said diet

~ MANotaur

I bet after 3 years of cruising he has it down to an exact science. Found his sweet spot and maintains it. Not sure if that makes sense, but it seems that he found exactly what works for him and hasn't changed the method. Would be a great conversation to have with him though.

Or maybe he's just one lucky SOB lol

[hardwork25]

I'm sure! Eq hunger is insane! It's really a different feeling than just skipping a meal hungry.

What I thought was most amazing wasn't his weight, ( which was still huge and amazing) but he is 6 ft plus, so higher weights are easier to obtain. But how lean he was with the amount he ate and his said diet

~ MANotaur

I'm almost 6'2 and the cycle I'm starting in two weeks will have EQ in it mainly because I want to see how hungry it will make me. I want to see how much I can consume as bulking up is much tougher for me than cutting. I naturally walk around at 11% bf. I'm fortunate that I can stay near that bf % even when bulking though so maybe he's similar in that regard?

If you talk to him again it would be nice to hear what he has to say.

[MANotaur]

I'm almost 6'2 and the cycle I'm starting in two weeks will have EQ in it mainly because I want to see how hungry it will make me. I want to see how much I can consume as bulking up is much tougher for me than cutting. I naturally walk around at 11% bf. I'm fortunate that I can stay near that bf % even when bulking though so maybe he's similar in that regard?

If you talk to him again it would be nice to hear what he has to say.

Ill prolly see him soonish..within the next week. Anything you want me to ask in particular??

~ MANotaur

[hardwork25]

Ill prolly see him soonish..within the next week. Anything you want me to ask in particular??

~ MANotaur

Why he chose to cruise on EQ? But really nothing in particular, I just find it interesting to get feedback from guys that do something a little different.

[MANotaur]

Why he chose to cruise on EQ? But really nothing in particular, I just find it interesting to get feedback from guys that do something a little different.

He said that eq is known for slow consistent gains that are solid and easy to maintain. Thats his main reason and the very low sides. He's replaced it with deca every now and then but he always goes back to the eq. He said nandrolone based sides are usually to much to make cruising with it worth while. He also doesn't like walking around looking like a pregnant chipmunk while he's on nandrolone ( his words not mine)

~ MANotaur

[MANotaur]

^^

That was from the other night when I we talke the first time cause I was curious why eq too

~ MANotaur

[Borispili]

cant u cruise on anything like even 50 mgs of SD if you dont wanna live long

[MANotaur]

cant u cruise on anything like even 50 mgs of SD if you dont wanna live long

I'm sure, Arnold cruised/ bridged on dbols and primo so yeah. Do you wanna cruise on 50 Mgs of SD?

~ MANotaur

[Gerbil]

I'm sure, Arnold cruised/ bridged on dbols and primo so yeah. Do you wanna cruise on 50 Mgs of SD?

~ MANotaur

You realize all the "Arnold Cycles" are pure speculation he did admit to using gear but never revealed what gear he was on.

[MANotaur]

You realize all the "Arnold Cycles" are pure speculation he did admit to using gear but never revealed what gear he was on.

He is quoted at saying primo is his favorite aas, everything else is " speculated" because he never said what he actually used or did on cycle

~ MANotaur

[hvactech]

someone explain "cruising" please

[hgjespersen]

Cruising is basically TRT with higher than normal doses. For an extended period of time. When you cycle its called a "blast". When you blast you add other compounds and up the dosages. This method is often used by pros

[David Dunn]

You guys are failing to see the health risks that are below the surface of his strength and physique.

Testosterone can/will increase RBC and hematocrit even at clinical TRT levels. EQ shows a marked ability for increasing red blood cell production. This thickens blood, increases blood pressure and other cardiovascular risks associated.

The idea of "cruising" on these at 300mg each without keeping a good close look at you bloods is a health risk IMHO. Then again I no longer have the mental defect associated with youth or immaturity that results in the belief that I am invincible.

Just some food for thought.

[MANotaur]

You guys are failing to see the health risks that are below the surface of his strength and physique.

Testosterone can/will increase RBC and hematocrit even at clinical TRT levels. EQ shows a marked ability for increasing red blood cell production. This thickens blood, increases blood pressure and other cardiovascular risks associated.

The idea of "cruising" on these at 300mg each without keeping a good close look at you bloods is a health risk IMHO. Then again I no longer have the mental defect associated with youth or immaturity that results in the belief that I am invincible.

Just some food for thought.

Lol the all wise dd!!

I knew that there were inherit risk associated with it. I just thought it was interesting his choice and his results. That's why I started the thread!

~ MANotaur

[MANotaur]

Cruising is basically TRT with higher than normal doses. For an extended period of time. When you cycle its called a "blast". When you blast you add other compounds and up the dosages. This method is often used by pros

Not just the pros. This particular guy is just a regular, typical lifting enthusiast just like the rest of us. He ha some very helpful insights to his thoughts on " cycling" and "blasting" and why he doesn't like them. I kind of agree with him on alot of stuff, after doing my own research on the matter. I just felt that it could make for a very interesting thread here on the forum!

~ MANotaur

[David Dunn]

The idea of running it longer low dosed is not a bad idea in and of itself. Infinitely, or for very long extended cruises, without bloods, might be reckless. The blood data, and not anecdotal reports, would be more responsible and safe way to proceed IMO.

A friend and I who are TRT patients often discuss things of this nature BUT analyze it more in light of longevity and health over results.

[David Dunn]

Cruising is basically TRT with higher than normal doses. For an extended period of time. When you cycle its called a "blast". When you blast you add other compounds and up the dosages. This method is often used by pros

It all depends on who you ask. Some "cruise" on a TRT dose and then "blast" for a period with a cycle dose level of testosterone.

[Borispili]

You guys are failing to see the health risks that are below the surface of his strength and physique.

Testosterone can/will increase RBC and hematocrit even at clinical TRT levels. EQ shows a marked ability for increasing red blood cell production. This thickens blood, increases blood pressure and other cardiovascular risks associated.

The idea of "cruising" on these at 300mg each without keeping a good close look at you bloods is a health risk IMHO. Then again I no longer have the mental defect associated with youth or immaturity that results in the belief that I am invincible.

Just some food for thought.

You could always donate blood, I cruise on 500 mgs a week far above the trt dosage I know bout could any one link me an article for the issue of "steroid burnout" aka receptor burn out as that could be a legit concern

[JoeBrooklyn]

I never heard of "cruising" until an AM buddy mentioned it; but i didnt know what he meant. Now my question is: aside from the other health risks of perpetually being on, what about the possability that your body completely shuts down test production? The point of cycling is to get your body to know its ok to produce test again. Any thoughts?

[David Dunn]

You could always donate blood, I cruise on 500 mgs a week far above the trt dosage I know bout could any one link me an article for the issue of "steroid burnout" aka receptor burn out as that could be a legit concern

Yes you can. I do. But do you know, with blood work if it is effective for you in keeping your RBC and hematacrit down. Additionally, simply because you are, or can, do something doesn't mean it is advisable.

[MANotaur]

Yes you can. I do. But do you know, with blood work if it is effective for you in keeping your RBC and hematacrit down. Additionally, simply because you are, or can, do something doesn't mean it is advisable.

I agree and yes! Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

~ MANotaur

[mikeg313]

someone explain "cruising" please

It's what gay men do when they're trying to get some penis...

Sorry couldn't resist an attempt at humor for some reason.