Did people know straight away that you was on a PH cycle?

[cyb3rtr0n1k]

I'm just curious. I know a few people that take oral PH or inject but I only saw them after they had been on it for a while. I have never seen anyone who has taken it and I have seen the progress. I mean 5-6lb of lbm over one cycle is surely noticeable if your seeing the guy throughtout the cycle?

anyone had any experience in this? Say you have been on a cycle and someone has come up to you and asked what your taking?

[R1187]

Only on SD.

IMO, nothing else legal ever came close, or was worth a damn.

[cyb3rtr0n1k]

Only on SD.

IMO, nothing else legal ever came close, or was worth a damn.

wanna get my feet wet before diving in head first :-)

[Ben Gunn]

Other than SD.All the orals I have taken seem like a waste of time and money. But when I was mid cycle I'm glad I went through the others to prepare me. SD is very intense.

[domtorres3]

I say alot depends on the person and what there taking. I have ran cycle putting on atleas 5 and no one notices besides my woman when she tells me I go a little belly flab but I don't have a everyday workout buddy or someone I see that much and work I always have a jacket on. That being said my past cycle arms and shoulders got very vascular skin got. That see thru look and I had a few people ask what I was on. So I would say depends on ur body type and how perceptive ppl around you.are. I mean to me the only person I care notices is myself.

[domtorres3]

Other than SD.All the orals I have taken seem like a waste of time and money. But when I was mid cycle I'm glad I went through the others to prepare me. SD is very intense.

Hmm I'd be interested to know the dosing and Supp u took I've seen guys built like oxes take "light duty" Ph and still see lean gains and strngth. I mean yeah everyone's body is dif but to see no results. Come on....

[iparatroop]

Yup. The couple of times that I took Spawn, I was questioned. I haven't done SD yet, but Spawn was pretty potent. I put on a lot of weight in a short amount of time. Fun times.

[Ben Gunn]

Hmm I'd be interested to know the dosing and Supp u took I've seen guys built like oxes take "light duty" Ph and still see lean gains and strngth. I mean yeah everyone's body is dif but to see no results. Come on....

Ye true could be the fault on my end. I have a few bottles of epi. Might give them a try in a few months before summer. Now I'm more experienced it could be better.

[cyb3rtr0n1k]

Other than SD.All the orals I have taken seem like a waste of time and money. But when I was mid cycle I'm glad I went through the others to prepare me. SD is very intense.

see I'm seeing different answers all over the web. I'm planning to do lg trifeca stack as I'm told its the mildest and I'm seeing people say they have gained between 4-8lb in one cycle. I mean naturally, 4lb in that time would be impressive. if I could do a cycle and get 4lb or more I'd be happy.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Last time I ran P-Bold (8 week cycle) I ran into some friends about a week in and then again like my last week on and they were wondering what I was on.
Only other people that say anything is my girlfriend every time I am on lol.

[cyb3rtr0n1k]

Last time I ran P-Bold (8 week cycle) I ran into some friends about a week in and then again like my last week on and they were wondering what I was on.
Only other people that say anything is my girlfriend every time I am on lol.

interesting that.

the lg trifeca stack is 7 weeks I believe, 2 of that is pct

[Jebrook]

I am new to ph. Been training for 15 years. Started dabbling with mild stuff. Wanted to stick to the mild or more natural stuff. Ran the natabolic stack by LG and then the trifecta stack. Ran the trifecta stack ror 8 weeks w two bottles. My diet was solid low carb high protein. Also took a preworkout (ASGT by LG). I had very little success/gains. I was very lean and leaned out a couple more percent but only gained maybe 3 lbs. on the trifecta. Nothing on the natabolic stack. Only gained 5 lbs-10 lbs or so on my lifts.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

I am new to ph. Been training for 15 years. Started dabbling with mild stuff. Wanted to stick to the mild or more natural stuff. Ran the natabolic stack by LG and then the trifecta stack. Ran the trifecta stack ror 8 weeks w two bottles. My diet was solid low carb high protein. Also took a preworkout (ASGT by LG). I had very little success/gains. I was very lean and leaned out a couple more percent but only gained maybe 3 lbs. on the trifecta. Nothing on the natabolic stack. Only gained 5 lbs-10 lbs or so on my lifts.

It's hard to gain strength on a recomp, you actually deserve a pat on the back for gaining.
If you gained 5 pounds and lost 1.5% bf consider yourself lucky again. That's phenomenal. I would guess about 7-8 lbs gained from that cycle. A pound a week is awesome.

[cyb3rtr0n1k]

I am new to ph. Been training for 15 years. Started dabbling with mild stuff. Wanted to stick to the mild or more natural stuff. Ran the natabolic stack by LG and then the trifecta stack. Ran the trifecta stack ror 8 weeks w two bottles. My diet was solid low carb high protein. Also took a preworkout (ASGT by LG). I had very little success/gains. I was very lean and leaned out a couple more percent but only gained maybe 3 lbs. on the trifecta. Nothing on the natabolic stack. Only gained 5 lbs-10 lbs or so on my lifts.

that's a shame. I'm the same, I wanna stick to the milder, more natural stuff (if that is such a term) but maybe because you had been lifting for so long it had less of an effect? I've only been lifting seriously for about 2, unseriously about 3.

[amiller745]

I am new to ph. Been training for 15 years. Started dabbling with mild stuff. Wanted to stick to the mild or more natural stuff. Ran the natabolic stack by LG and then the trifecta stack. Ran the trifecta stack ror 8 weeks w two bottles. My diet was solid low carb high protein. Also took a preworkout (ASGT by LG). I had very little success/gains. I was very lean and leaned out a couple more percent but only gained maybe 3 lbs. on the trifecta. Nothing on the natabolic stack. Only gained 5 lbs-10 lbs or so on my lifts.

You can't base your opinion on phs on LG sciences. IMO they aren't very good. Hell I mean some of them are straight DHEA.

[Jebrook]

Wasn't expecting huge gains. Like cybertronic I'm just lookin to get my feet wet with the ph's and start somewhere. Lookin to make big size and strength gains with progressively stronger compounds. Thought I would share my results since he mentioned the trifecta stack. I agree that LG stuff is not ideal for big gains. Not lookin to jack his thread but any suggestion for a next step after trifecta and natabolic?

[Jebrook]

that's a shame. I'm the same, I wanna stick to the milder, more natural stuff (if that is such a term) but maybe because you had been lifting for so long it had less of an effect? I've only been lifting seriously for about 2, unseriously about 3.

Could be. I've used a lot of Lg stuff lately. It is all cost effective and gives some results. Just nothing huge or drastic. Good place to start though. Maybe you'll notice more. I'm ready to up the stakes just a little here pretty soon.

[amiller745]

Wasn't expecting huge gains. Like cybertronic I'm just lookin to get my feet wet with the ph's and start somewhere. Lookin to make big size and strength gains with progressively stronger compounds. Thought I would share my results since he mentioned the trifecta stack. I agree that LG stuff is not ideal for big gains. Not lookin to jack his thread but any suggestion for a next step after trifecta and natabolic?

Hdrol!

[mstep]

one week into SD, people started wonderin what was up. i just told em "immunities baby"

[R1187]

Other than SD.All the orals I have taken seem like a waste of time and money. But when I was mid cycle I'm glad I went through the others to prepare me. SD is very intense.

I agree.

SD could have been my very first cycle. Everyone reacts differently, but I didn't think it was overly "harsh" like people claim. It was however extremely effective

Again everyone is different but Pmag was an absolute joke and waste of time for me.