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    I'm interested in trying an prohormone called Invasion(5a-etioallocholan[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol). Yes i know it is more of a mild supplement and more for lean muscle gain and to cut body fat. I've got the prohormone and the liver support but not gonna start till i have everything i need. What would be best PTC? also should i take Formastane and some kind of estrogen killer or anything else?

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    read up about PCTs, come up with a basic outline of what you think would be a suitable pct for this cycle and than post it up for review/advise/suggestions.
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    I've come down to either Forged or Revolution for my PCT. A buddy recommened i take Tamoxifen with my PCT for the antagonist effect on estrogen
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    what are your stats including age and how long have you been training?
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    im 22, 5'10 about 175. train 4-5 days a week. got really into it about 3 years ago. biggest problem is my diet as with most people. bench max 300, squat 375, deadlift 350.
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    Look into SERMS.... Nolva, clomid etc. mild PH or not, will still help you keep most of your gains and return your body back to normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_ View Post
    I'm interested in trying an prohormone called Invasion(5a-etioallocholan[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol). Yes i know it is more of a mild supplement and more for lean muscle gain and to cut body fat. I've got the prohormone and the liver support but not gonna start till i have everything i need. What would be best PTC? also should i take Formastane and some kind of estrogen killer or anything else?
    That's orastan-a. Run it 300mg for six weeks and that'll be a decent cycle. Get some clomid or nolva for pct.
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    Should I take the Tamoxofen with my PCT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_ View Post
    Should I take the Tamoxofen with my PCT?
    It depends. What dose are you going to run it and for how long?
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    Tamoxifen is fantastic. I wouldn't risk an OTC pct regardless of how mild. SERMs work.
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    5a-etioallocholan[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol 50mg
    2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 15mg

    that is all the bottle says dosage wise. one capsule twice daily for 4 weeks.
    so weeks 1-4 take my prohormone and my liver supports and start my PCT(clomid or nolva) and tamoxifen at the beginning of week 4 and take for 4 weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_ View Post
    5a-etioallocholan[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol 50mg
    2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 15mg

    that is all the bottle says dosage wise. one capsule twice daily for 4 weeks.
    so weeks 1-4 take my prohormone and my liver supports and start my PCT(clomid or nolva) and tamoxifen at the beginning of week 4 and take for 4 weeks?
    What's bad about that is you need 3 caps to get anything from the epi. But you like 6 to get anything from than furaza. I would take 3 caps a da for six weeks.
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    will i gain anything taking the dose the bottle says?
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    If this is your first cycle, you probably will see some gains. The problem with the combo stack PHs is that its two,three or every four different compounds but never near the avg effective dose per compound. So it's like taking low doses of two different Substances. I'd say run it, look into clomid, nolva, or torrem. Study dosages and set up PCT and in the future, stick to proper dosages rather that the over prices all in one stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_ View Post
    5a-etioallocholan[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol 50mg
    2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 15mg

    that is all the bottle says dosage wise. one capsule twice daily for 4 weeks.
    so weeks 1-4 take my prohormone and my liver supports and start my PCT(clomid or nolva) and tamoxifen at the beginning of week 4 and take for 4 weeks?
    yes you will make gains at the rec dosage if you eat and train right. 30mg of epi is on the lower end of the scale but it is still effective. start your serm the day after your last day on your PHs. if your running nolva, i would run it 40/20/20/10 or something similar to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_ View Post
    will i gain anything taking the dose the bottle says?
    IMO and experience I would say no but no one will agree with me so you're going to do what you want
  

  
 

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