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    Is there any back to back comparisons or any scientific evidence that estrogen is needed to build muscle? Has anybody run a cycle with no ai and then the same cycle with an ai with any major differences in lbm at the end of pct? (Not water weight that just drops off, just clean gains you were left with)
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    total bro science bro! it actually originated from bb.com

    im jk looky here
    http://jme.endocrinology-journals.or...t/45/1/45.full
    http://www.ismc.dk/pages/_709698B80BB8B814C125742B00574 EA0/$file/Mette%20Hansen%20PhD%20thesis. pdf

    theres more but im too lazy to copy paste a billion studies on an ipad
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazzvxr View Post
    Is there any back to back comparisons or any scientific evidence that estrogen is needed to build muscle? Has anybody run a cycle with no ai and then the same cycle with an ai with any major differences in lbm at the end of pct? (Not water weight that just drops off, just clean gains you were left with)
    http://www.steroidology.com/forum/an...le-growth.html

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    So on that note... Me being prone to gyno... Would 0.5mg of letro eod or 0.6mg e3d completely shut down estrogen?
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    any personal experiences on this topic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sieusc View Post
    any personal experiences on this topic?
    Good question!
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    either it's a coincidence that another thread was made asking pretty much the same question (that I answered) or op saw such thread, thought I'm full of shiit, and decided to make another one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    either it's a coincidence that another thread was made asking pretty much the same question (that I answered) or op saw such thread, thought I'm full of shiit, and decided to make another one?
    Yeah I saw your reply and thought, this guys talking bubbles!! oO ooO
    Haha joking a side iv just read your reply to that thread, do you think the doses of letro I mentioned above would be too much for my cycle? I'm running test e at 500mg a week
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazzvxr View Post
    So on that note... Me being prone to gyno... Would 0.5mg of letro eod or 0.6mg e3d completely shut down estrogen?
    i would much rather have to little estro than to much. but i doubt 0.5mg eod would crush your estrogen, cant say for certain though. but everyone is different. some people have said that 0.25mg was enough to reverse gyno, while others need 2.5 so it can vary quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heebs10 View Post

    i would much rather have to little estro than to much. but i doubt 0.5mg eod would crush your estrogen, cant say for certain though. but everyone is different. some people have said that 0.25mg was enough to reverse gyno, while others need 2.5 so it can vary quite a bit.
    Thanks for the reply, going to try going e3d as iv read that the half life is 4 days and if any symptoms appear back to eod, only in week 3 of my cycle so want to make sure I'm not over doing it... Even though iv read thread after thread! I won't be happy with dosing until the gains start
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    I've used letro on cycle. It doesn't hinder gains whatsoever unless ur shooting for water weight...it'll actually keep u drier and leaner
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    Quote Originally Posted by figdaddy View Post
    I've used letro on cycle. It doesn't hinder gains whatsoever unless ur shooting for water weight...it'll actually keep u drier and leaner
    Nice to finally come across someone with first hand experience, how many mg was you using per week?
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    1.25 EOD. Kept me pretty damn dry. Ended up shrinking my pre existing gyno too. Libido was through the roof and i had no issue w joints. Everyone reacts differently. I know people who cant be on letro for more than a week due to sides.
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