IBE Epistane & Havoc

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    IBE Epistane & Havoc


    I am interested in running a cycle of either and had a question; which one is better? Also what's a good product to take on the side w/ it thats necessary?

    Also I keep reading places that there was a Original Havoc (How do you tell the difference on the bottle if it's the original or a newer one? and whats the difference?)

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    I have only used epi. It is the same compound but the sourcing may have an effect on the product. Both companies have solid reputations so I am sure you cannot go wrong.
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    Did you take it with a PCT or afterwards? also what PCT do you recommend?
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    and up goes the red flag
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flameon View Post
    Did you take it with a PCT or afterwards? also what PCT do you recommend?
    Man this right here proves you not ready to jump into PH. You need to do your research This isn't just getting some no explode from ***. These things are messing with your hormones. If you mess it up your in for a long run of physical and health issues. I am on my 4th week of my first epistane cycle and I have loved it. However I researched possibly a good 6 months in advance. Also havoc sells for 35-40 a bottle. But don't forget the other 200 you will be spending on your support supplements, fish oil, taurine, and then your PCT. I'm telling you about $200. That's the cost to do it right and Before you ask. YES you absolutely need a serm. Do some research and then PM me when you think you've got a good cycle planned. I'd be happy to help you then. Good luck and get to work! Also what are your stats and goals?
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    Havoc did absolutely nothing to me...2 bottles wasted
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    Saw good results from Havoc, quickly but... as Mike said, gota do research man, the painfull hours infront of the computer are well worth it man
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    I enjoyed havoc gained 25 kept 13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike71884 View Post
    Man this right here proves you not ready to jump into PH. You need to do your research This isn't just getting some no explode from ***. These things are messing with your hormones. If you mess it up your in for a long run of physical and health issues. I am on my 4th week of my first epistane cycle and I have loved it. However I researched possibly a good 6 months in advance. Also havoc sells for 35-40 a bottle. But don't forget the other 200 you will be spending on your support supplements, fish oil, taurine, and then your PCT. I'm telling you about $200. That's the cost to do it right and Before you ask. YES you absolutely need a serm. Do some research and then PM me when you think you've got a good cycle planned. I'd be happy to help you then. Good luck and get to work! Also what are your stats and goals?
    Wtf...200 bucks...

    Tamoxifen and some liver support is cheap stuff...

    No need for taurine and fish oil should already be a staple to anyone's supp stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by ion26

    Wtf...200 bucks...

    Tamoxifen and some liver support is cheap stuff...

    No need for taurine and fish oil should already be a staple to anyone's supp stack
    ill take the liberty of breaking it down for you

    3 bottles of havoc ~$75 at its cheapest
    2 bottles of cycke support ~$50
    1 serm ~$30
    daa ~$10
    ai ~$25
    total of $190 without shipping and without th cost of fish oil, multi vitamin, taurine, joint support, or tudca/inhibit p for stronger cycles. and those are pretty much absolute cheapest
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