NPC Competition and Drug Testing (Natural)
- 01-25-2013, 04:32 PM
NPC Competition and Drug Testing (Natural)
I'm thinking about doing a Natural Physique Competition in 2 months. I have never taken anything but my buddy wants me to try some pro hormones. I was curious on how long pro hormones stay in your system if I were to take a Urine Drug Test prior to the Competition. Anything will help!!
- 01-25-2013, 05:39 PM
are u really gonna cheat bro, thats gay
- 01-25-2013, 06:08 PM
Super weak! Yeah how about do an untested show if you're gonna juice! For christs sake have a shred of integrity man! And your buddy sux!
01-25-2013, 06:21 PM
Lol well I have people telling me I need to get bigger then cut down before a show if I'm gonna do one. I can't gain any weight it's tough. I don't wanna do straight up injectables so I thought I'd try a PH. Plus I'm not cheating if I don't get caught! Don't try to tell me that "Natural" bodybuilders and physique competitors at competitions have never juiced before. that's just being ignorant. They all juice just don't get caught. That's why I'm trying to figure out how long PH's stay in your system for. lol but thanks for the input
01-25-2013, 06:41 PM
Natty is natty my friend! Phs would make you non natty. Don't cheat to win.
01-25-2013, 06:42 PM
01-25-2013, 08:56 PM
01-25-2013, 08:59 PM
Help guys I can't make gains so I really want to cheat so I can have a chance to keep up with the more dedicated competitors!
01-25-2013, 09:02 PM
01-25-2013, 09:04 PM
I personally know natty compets and they would be pissed if they lost to someone that took that route.
That being said. Noone is saying phs or gear is cheating but at least be honest with yourself and your competition and enter the show on equal terms. And if you don't want to be natty then enter a non natty. It's just that simple.
01-25-2013, 09:06 PM
01-25-2013, 09:08 PM
Thats what I was saying I guess it came out the wrong way.
I do believe that in this case it is cheating!!! And he should enter an untested comp
01-25-2013, 09:42 PM
bro u cant make gains natty ull make no enhanced gains so whts the point of spending money on cycle
01-25-2013, 09:55 PM
Just keep eating your 5000 cals a day and you'll gain.
01-25-2013, 11:57 PM
I didn't say I was going to take anything lol I was just thinking about it. Man y'all getting an attitude.. yes it is cheating I'm not saying it isn't. I'm saying people do it still no matter what?! I was just curious of how long a PH was in your system for lol that's all. geezus. Yes I can gain weight I just wanted to do it faster then normal. THAT'S ALL.
01-25-2013, 11:59 PM
01-26-2013, 12:39 AM
It's just an ignorant question bro...just a ill heads up,be careful what you say, and call people, you will get banned quick...I understand you are young and curious about "prohormones" ,steroids, but even if you want to compete natty or not, you have a ton of natty weight to gain... you can't rush muscle gains, that tells us you have a lot to learn, my advice research, I guarantee you will be able to answer your question about how long these chemicals stay in your system...be safe and smart man...not trying to be an ass, just trying to helpOriginally Posted by Snickes16
01-26-2013, 12:57 AM
01-26-2013, 07:03 AM
01-26-2013, 08:10 AM
Whats your diet like, how many calories are you eating in a day, protein consumption in a day. Are you doing cardio, if your that hard of a gainer and your doing cardio stop, but im betting its just poor diet. What are your sleeping habits, do you try and get 7 to 8 hours a night. What type of training program do you follow, what are your 5 day splits.
These are only just the basic things you should have in check if you want to start making decent gains. Without pro's. Prohormones requir a very strick and almost perfect overall training system to work on the body. Not to mention support supps, and 2 month isnt nearly enough time to do a cycle and get it out of your system. The average short cycle is 4 weeks on 4 weeks pct. So the day aftet pct you would be at show and that aint gonna fly.
My advice to you is mark the event on the calander for next year. sit down and actually figure out a solid bulking diet, and training program. Cut 3 to 4 months before show, and do this the right way, bodybuilding is about patience there is no fast track to victory.
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01-26-2013, 08:48 AM
01-26-2013, 10:51 AM
I graduated HS at 5'9" 142 (was my weight when enlisting as well) and currently sit at 5'9" 166 and still gaining.
Eat more, if you were that dedicated your diet would be on point and you wouldn't be thinking about cheating just so you could compete (and probably still lose)
01-26-2013, 01:23 PM
Ok maybe I was like 150 when graduating. I have been in the Marine Corps for the past 4 years and have lifted and done what I can too gain weight. I'm out now and can eat what I want. MRE's don't cut it. Thanks for your input though. Once again making yourself feel better about yourself by putting down others.
01-26-2013, 01:27 PM
You use it to cheat a competition with set rules and the media turns it into a stigma that AAS is cheating. If you can't play by the rules then don't play.
I assume integrity was a big part of the Corp so why not practice a little now that you're out.
01-26-2013, 02:03 PM
At 5'10" and 170, you have about 40 lbs of natty gains to make before you should even think about going to the dark side bro.
My advice: max out natty. Get your diet and training in order and 40 lbs over the next 18 months should be no problem...
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01-26-2013, 02:23 PM
01-26-2013, 02:24 PM
01-26-2013, 02:33 PM
01-26-2013, 02:38 PM
Never say never my friend. When you get your diet on point and switch up your routine Alittle bit you may over achieve yourself.
At your height and judging by your pics you can pack on the weight. Did you ever think of a comp coach
01-26-2013, 04:24 PM
The only true PH I am aware of are DHEA products.
Everything else is DS (designer steroids) which is AAS and using them for a natural competition is cheating. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
01-26-2013, 04:37 PM
Agreed...people who say prohormones aren't steroids are foolish in their "knowledge" most are active forms of the compound,or convert to the steroid after the compound passes through the liver...plain and simple you aren't natty once you have taken a cycle of "prohormones" so it's cheating end of story...for the guys who pass the drug test for natty comps who have cycled are cowards,Originally Posted by jimbuick
01-26-2013, 04:37 PM
And don't kid yourself if you think a PH wouldn't be cheating, you are taking exogenous hormones to increase your chances of winning; which is cheating.
01-26-2013, 04:49 PM
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01-26-2013, 05:01 PM
01-26-2013, 05:03 PM
01-26-2013, 05:09 PM
I asked because it's SD and HD stacked. Just wondering what his recommendation would be since HD is normally run a couple of weeks longer than SD and they're both methyls.
01-26-2013, 07:45 PM
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