Recomendation/advice needed ph cycle

  1. Recomendation/advice needed ph cycle


    I'm 21 6"1 175lbs and 9% BF


    I have done plenty of research and I have come up with one compounds that I'd like to run solo but can't decide if its the right one for a first cycle . I'm looking for dry gains! (I have never taken any PH)

    DMZ- 17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17, beta-dimethyl 5alpha, -androstan3-on azine
    I really like this compound but read about some not so good sides.

    And what recommendations for other PH with dry weight gains do you recommend?

    Also what staples should I add for before/during/after cycle?

    Will finish with a serm pct

    Currently taking
    -Animal Pak
    -Fish oil
    -Fast fuel (PW)
    -Optimum Pro Complex gainer
    -IsoPure


  2. I would do a little more research on beginner cycles. DMZ not recommended for your first cycle.

  3. Look into Halodrol for your first cycle. You should have liver support (milk thistle, NAC), ancillary support (for blood pressure, prostate health, etc. I use CEL cycle assist), and proper pct ready to go before you start your cycle. I used to use Nolva for PCT...but I've used Toremifine for my PCT the last two cycles, and I like it better.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Look into Halodrol for your first cycle. You should have liver support (milk thistle, NAC), ancillary support (for blood pressure, prostate health, etc. I use CEL cycle assist), and proper pct ready to go before you start your cycle. I used to use Nolva for PCT...but I've used Toremifine for my PCT the last two cycles, and I like it better.
    Definitely some good info here hdrol would be a good first cycle

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  6. Thanks to all for the input! I get my paycheck tomorrow and should have around $400 bucks left to spend to create my first cycle. Will do some more research and let you know what I come up with. Also thinking about creation an online log to get some feedback/help/advice while on cycle for the best result. AM.com awesome tool

  7. Try something no one try's like bulk up + 11-oxo. Easy first cycle.

  8. Halo for sure. And there are a million logs on here with it.
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  9. Yeah man def go with hdrol if you wanna save your wallet. If not run the bulk up.

  10. Is bulk up really that much better/effective? And safer?

  11. halo is the ideal beginner cycle,and can be safe and yield great results if the right research is done and you use good support and pct choices!it was my first cycle personally and i loved it.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Mack411 View Post
    halo is the ideal beginner cycle,and can be safe and yield great results if the right research is done and you use good support and pct choices!it was my first cycle personally and i loved it.
    Yeah man halo for sure. I can't see myself dropping that much money for a bulk up cycle. Seems like it would be really expensive

  13. Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post
    Yeah man halo for sure. I can't see myself dropping that much money for a bulk up cycle. Seems like it would be really expensive
    yep,i am not knocking the product or company at all,but lack of reviews and results would be hard for me to go with a product.we all know halo is awesome,cant go wrong.and a good one to go with is lgi!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Mack411 View Post

    yep,i am not knocking the product or company at all,but lack of reviews and results would be hard for me to go with a product.we all know halo is awesome,cant go wrong.and a good one to go with is lgi!
    I agree and I'm not knocking them either just have a hard time dropping that kind of cash for a cycle. I believe that 2 bottles is needed for a good cycle.

  15. Finally got my check and this is the cycle I'm planning on running before I purchase I'd like to hear what you guys think.

    -Halo-25
    50/75/75/75
    -Cycle Assist at recommended dose will start two weeks before
    -Milk Thistle 600mg extra from the 500mg already found in Cycle Assist will also start two weeks before
    -Opti-men Multivitamin
    -Fish oil
    -Will have 2 10lbs bags of Pro-complex gainer that I'will take 1 serving post workout and one before bed.

    For PCT I still haven't decide what SERM I will take. (That is why I haven't purchased Halo-25)
    What I know I'll run as a test booster would be APE for 8 weeks.

    Once I figure which SERM to buy I will post diet and workout which is a 4 day split. N maybe run the online log.

    Thanks again AM community

  16. Quote Originally Posted by gero09 View Post
    Finally got my check and this is the cycle I'm planning on running before I purchase I'd like to hear what you guys think.

    -Halo-25
    50/75/75/75
    -Cycle Assist at recommended dose will start two weeks before
    -Milk Thistle 600mg extra from the 500mg already found in Cycle Assist will also start two weeks before
    -Opti-men Multivitamin
    -Fish oil
    -Will have 2 10lbs bags of Pro-complex gainer that I'will take 1 serving post workout and one before bed.

    For PCT I still haven't decide what SERM I will take. (That is why I haven't purchased Halo-25)
    What I know I'll run as a test booster would be APE for 8 weeks.

    Once I figure which SERM to buy I will post diet and workout which is a 4 day split. N maybe run the online log.

    Thanks again AM community
    Run halo for six weeks 75mg all the way through.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by amiller745 View Post

    Run halo for six weeks 75mg all the way through.
    I definitely agree with 6 weeks hdrol doesn't start to kick in until week 2-3

  18. Can anyone PM me with a site where they got their SERM? It is the item I'm most worried about buying bc idk if I can trust the site it would be appreciated.

    Will run it as followed
    50/75/75/75/75/75
    Purchased 120 caps in total this way ill use 119

  19. Quote Originally Posted by gero09 View Post
    Can anyone PM me with a site where they got their SERM? It is the item I'm most worried about buying bc idk if I can trust the site it would be appreciated.

    Will run it as followed
    50/75/75/75/75/75
    Purchased 120 caps in total this way ill use 119
    No Serm No Cycle

  20. I agree! I'm not about to run the cycle without the SERM that is why I was asking for someone to help me I have found a site I just don't know if its to be trusted

  21. Quote Originally Posted by gero09 View Post
    I agree! I'm not about to run the cycle without the SERM that is why I was asking for someone to help me I have found a site I just don't know if its to be trusted
    Cant help there man no source naming here

  22. No PM either?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by gero09 View Post
    No PM either?
    Google is your friend my man! And no PM's either
  

  
 

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