So I want to run my first cycle, but nobody is giving input....

[lukedubas]

How does this beast look? I was thinking it may be too much.. but thats why I'm looking fir some guidance.
Week 1 Decavol + 1-Andro + 550xd
Week 2 Decavol + 1-Andro + 4-AD + 550xd
Week 3 Decavol + 1-Andro + 4-AD + 550xd
Week 4 Decavol 4-AD + 550xd
Week 5 4-AD + PCT revolution black + Endosurge + Arom-X
Week 6 PCT revolution black + Endosurge + Arom-X
Week 7 PCT revolution black + Endosurge + Arom-X

[huggy77]

how old are you.
how long have you been training.
what is your goal for this "cycle"

[usealittle]

This is a PH cycle. IMO a real cycle uses oils with orals

Looks like alot of work for your insides, oils will give better results with less strain on the body.

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[grandroid828]

How does this beast look? I was thinking it may be too much.. but thats why I'm looking fir some guidance.
Week 1 Decavol + 1-Andro + 550xd
Week 2 Decavol + 1-Andro + 4-AD + 550xd
Week 3 Decavol + 1-Andro + 4-AD + 550xd
Week 4 Decavol 4-AD + 550xd
Week 5 4-AD + PCT revolution black + Endosurge + Arom-X
Week 6 PCT revolution black + Endosurge + Arom-X
Week 7 PCT revolution black + Endosurge + Arom-X

Haha. "Beast".....

[schroedes]

I would keep researching bud

[schroedes]

First cycle?

[amiller745]

None of those products will do much good if run under 6 weeks to be honest. And doses?

[lamonster14]

It would be quite expensive to run all those at an effective dose. For example the suggested dose of 4ad is 2 tabs at 200mg. Your gonna want up to 4 heck even maybe more to combat lethargy or libido loss. same goes for the 1 Andro. If dosed correctly they're fun and carry less sides than methylated designers. They are also legal unlike true gear, for now at least. So in summary to be "safe" and also make gains like your expecting your gonna have a significantly lighter wallet. But I suppose most don't mind spending on peace of mind.

[Hyde]

If its your first cycle you should see gains from anything, even a single AMS whatever their biggest kit is called. But don't drop out compounds the way you listed the 1andro only weeks 1-3; you only ever add compounds or increase dosage (unless bridging, which is not relevant here). Buy another bottle of 1andro if you go this route and dose it higher than finaflex recommends (from experience, stuff is WEAK).

Big problems I see here are no mention of goals, cycle supports, a clear desire to get by with otc pct products (which will suffice here, but you should be willing/able to run a SERM if necessary), and a host of inactive compounds with low bio-availability that will be competing for conversion enzymes to actually give you the results your after.

[amiller745]

Yes I would say just go with 1andro and 4-AD only but buy more of it.

[lamonster14]

I'm loving 4ad and 1 Andro. 4 of each daily for 8 weeks

[lukedubas]

To all, thank you for your input, I think I'm going to run just the ams stack. I'll save up for more 1-andro and 550xd so I can run that for a solid 8 weeks. I want the most out of each.


I'm 21 and I want to gain lean muscle, but who doesn't? And this would be my first stack. I've been training for a little over 5 years, 3 being intense.

It says the arom-x would only be needed for pct, but i do have some Nolva just in case. (I'm not thaaaaat much of a noob)

Multi, fish oil, protein, creatine all be included like regular.

[lamonster14]

I'm not a fan of the arom x. I'd rather use daa and erase

[lukedubas]

I'm not a fan of the arom x. I'd rather use daa and erase

what is lacking in the arom-x?

[grandroid828]

what is lacking in the arom-x?

Lots. Its a great product. But daa and erase would restart you fat better than arom x

[lukedubas]

Lots. Its a great product. But daa and erase would restart you fat better than arom x

ok thank you.

[lamonster14]

Atom x is atd I believe. Not a fan

[lamonster14]

Arom

[Hyde]

FWIW, I second this. Taper the erase down, if not up as well. 1/2/3/3/2/1 erase per day is common; 0/0/3/3/3/2/1 if stacked with a SERM for a heavily suppressive cycle, which this shouldn't be.