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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Thomasxavier View Post

    Suffice? Letro is stronger than arimidex. Overkill
    Suffice means will that do aka will that suffice. And i am aware of the potency of letro hence the reason i cut the typical dose of 2.5 into fifths.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285 View Post
    I'd get either adex or aromasin ASAP. . Letro is generaly used to crush your estrogen to get rid of gyno. I'm not exactly sure on the dosing of letro because I've never had to use it.
    Thanks for the input brother ill be ordering some adex just to be safe in the meantime ill just have to work with what ive got till it comes in
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285 View Post
    I'd get either adex or aromasin ASAP. . Letro is generaly used to crush your estrogen to get rid of gyno. I'm not exactly sure on the dosing of letro because I've never had to use it.
    Is there one over the other that u prefer adex or aromisin

  4. Personally I prefer adex but that's only because that's the only thing I've used and it worked well for me.
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    doin it mountain dog style in here come along for the shred fest-http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/229302-danbs-mountain-dog.html

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285 View Post
    Personally I prefer adex but that's only because that's the only thing I've used and it worked well for me.
    Whats the typical dose of adex so i buy enough
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift

    Whats the typical dose of adex so i buy enough
    It's different for everybody. For me I was dosing .5 Ed.and the switched to .5 EOD because my joints were achy and very lathargic And then went to .25 Ed and ended up finding me sweet spot at .25 eod. Your just going to have to play around with it and figure out what works for you. But I woul probably buy enough to use .5 Ed for the rest of you run just to be safe.
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    doin it mountain dog style in here come along for the shred fest-http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/229302-danbs-mountain-dog.html

  7. So this starts my second week not gonna lie i feel like an emotional girl right about now i feel numb i just finished my upper body power day all weights either went up or increased reps i just really feel like my estrogen is really high. Felt great in the gym but just wiped a trickle of tears from my eyes wtf.

  8. Didnt sleep at all last night trying to go to bed now

  9. Need some support guys shut down hard lethargic went home from work to sleep for 2 hours now feel really cruddy going to hit legs tonight tryin to keep food up i have been eating 4000 calories on lifting days and 3500 calories on off days need some advice and how to kick this flu feeling of being shut down

  10. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift
    Need some support guys shut down hard lethargic went home from work to sleep for 2 hours now feel really cruddy going to hit legs tonight tryin to keep food up i have been eating 4000 calories on lifting days and 3500 calories on off days need some advice and how to kick this flu feeling of being shut down
    Well could be a couple things going on here man

    1) you crushed your E2 with the letro. Drop it of your still taking it. Start Nolva until your AI gets here if your nips are still tender. which im guessing your E2 was probably ok before the letro you just mind f*cked yourself into taking the letro. hormonal changes can cause sensitive nips. doesnt mean its gyno. Get bloods if you can in a couple days to see where your e2 is and go from there.

    This is my guess^^

    2) you've got test flu. No big deal it happens to some guys. Last a couple days and goes away. Your body's trying to fight off this re chemical in it.

    3) your just sick-nothing you can do about this one.

    As fat as being shut down. Your gonna e shutdown until after PCT man. If we're
    talking about the same "shut down". Get some rest because rest is the most important thing besides food and lifting while your on.
    Purus labs Rep
    doin it mountain dog style in here come along for the shred fest-http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/229302-danbs-mountain-dog.html

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285 View Post

    Well could be a couple things going on here man

    1) you crushed your E2 with the letro. Drop it of your still taking it. Start Nolva until your AI gets here if your nips are still tender. which im guessing your E2 was probably ok before the letro you just mind f*cked yourself into taking the letro. hormonal changes can cause sensitive nips. doesnt mean its gyno. Get bloods if you can in a couple days to see where your e2 is and go from there.

    This is my guess^^

    2) you've got test flu. No big deal it happens to some guys. Last a couple days and goes away. Your body's trying to fight off this re chemical in it.

    3) your just sick-nothing you can do about this one.

    As fat as being shut down. Your gonna e shutdown until after PCT man. If we're
    talking about the same "shut down". Get some rest because rest is the most important thing besides food and lifting while your on.
    Thanks brother u seem to be the only guy who posts on here so "for that ill be splittin my buried treasure with you once i find it that be" - Steve the pirate

  12. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift

    Thanks brother u seem to be the only guy who posts on here so "for that ill be splittin my buried treasure with you once i find it that be" - Steve the pirate
    It's all good man. Just relax and enjoy the test lol your gonna miss it here in a few months
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    doin it mountain dog style in here come along for the shred fest-http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/229302-danbs-mountain-dog.html

  13. Hey bro I'm going to be doing a test cycle here soon hopefully, first time for me as well. How would you say your feeling so far and how does it compare to other aas or ph you have done if you have

  14. Quote Originally Posted by RippedCity View Post
    Hey bro I'm going to be doing a test cycle here soon hopefully, first time for me as well. How would you say your feeling so far and how does it compare to other aas or ph you have done if you have
    Well i currently feel like a freight train has hit me very lethargic with flu like symptoms i still killed legs today and went up weight on everything but just feel kinda crummy i have ran sd before felt some lethargy but not like this. Hoping it goes away soon. Weight still steadily increasing eating a ton 4000+ on workout days feel like my waist is increasing but its bulking season and i need to eat to gain the most muscle possible over the next 12 weeks so im letting those abs say goodbye for now after all abs on a skinny guy are like big tits on a fat chick

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285

    Well could be a couple things going on here man

    1) you crushed your E2 with the letro. Drop it of your still taking it. Start Nolva until your AI gets here if your nips are still tender. which im guessing your E2 was probably ok before the letro you just mind f*cked yourself into taking the letro. hormonal changes can cause sensitive nips. doesnt mean its gyno. Get bloods if you can in a couple days to see where your e2 is and go from there.

    This is my guess^^

    2) you've got test flu. No big deal it happens to some guys. Last a couple days and goes away. Your body's trying to fight off this re chemical in it.

    3) your just sick-nothing you can do about this one.

    As fat as being shut down. Your gonna e shutdown until after PCT man. If we're
    talking about the same "shut down". Get some rest because rest is the most important thing besides food and lifting while your on.
    Think hit the nail on the head there with guess #1!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift

    Well i currently feel like a freight train has hit me very lethargic with flu like symptoms i still killed legs today and went up weight on everything but just feel kinda crummy i have ran sd before felt some lethargy but not like this. Hoping it goes away soon. Weight still steadily increasing eating a ton 4000+ on workout days feel like my waist is increasing but its bulking season and i need to eat to gain the most muscle possible over the next 12 weeks so im letting those abs say goodbye for now after all abs on a skinny guy are like big tits on a fat chick
    Very interested on how this turns out bud ill be running my first test cycle as soon as the mrs gets knocked up! She has no problem with it but wants to get prego first, happy wife, happy life right?

    I'm either gonna run test E with a dbol kicker or just test E solo. Haven't made my mind up yet. I can deal with the bloat but I'm worried about liver stress and the nausea I've read about. I'm just paranoid I guess. Lol

    That last sentence cracked me up! Keep ur head up bud.
    Independent

  17. Alright guys i need some insomnia help, is there anyone on here that has a hard time sleeping, i went to bed at 10 hoping to get some much needed sleep didnt actually fall asleep until about 12 or 1 and then woke up at 4 when my wife got out of bed to take the dog out here it is 5 in the morning i cant sleep im pizzed off i have tried every walmart pill for sleep also tried 3z by AI and REMPM by man sports neither of those worked either. I know one of the largest components to results is sleep and i just dont get any. I took 9g melatonin and sleepy time tea and guess whos still awake? This guy!

  18. I'm not sure if it's prescription or not over there but I use hypnerdorm (not sure if thats how u spell it ) for between night shifts. Works wonders with little to no hangover !

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    I'm not sure if it's prescription or not over there but I use hypnerdorm (not sure if thats how u spell it ) for between night shifts. Works wonders with little to no hangover !
    Yea u cant get anything without a prescription over here. Thank you government for making me pay $500 if i genuinely need a solution to a major problem! But thanks to obama if i would have not worked i would be taken care of. Oh the world we live in is a sad one.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift

    Yea u cant get anything without a prescription over here. Thank you government for making me pay $500 if i genuinely need a solution to a major problem! But thanks to obama if i would have not worked i would be taken care of. Oh the world we live in is a sad one.
    Haha man it's not right! Mrs Gillard ( our prime minister ) makes it's very hard for us to get ahead in life. The more you earn the more they f*ck you over but if you bludge off the system every things taken care of for you. Plus I'm
    Sure if you had a spare $500 it'd go on more test....

  21. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift

    Yea u cant get anything without a prescription over here. Thank you government for making me pay $500 if i genuinely need a solution to a major problem! But thanks to obama if i would have not worked i would be taken care of. Oh the world we live in is a sad one.
    Seriously what a great country we live in.
    Independent

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    Haha man it's not right! Mrs Gillard ( our prime minister ) makes it's very hard for us to get ahead in life. The more you earn the more they f*ck you over but if you bludge off the system every things taken care of for you. Plus I'm
    Sure if you had a spare $500 it'd go on more test....
    Dang right

  23. Didnt go to work today trying to lay in bed and get some rest. Last night about 5 AM i finally got some sleep by taking what i didnt want to due to enough things going through my liver but ended up taking some theraflu tea along with benadril and within 30 min. I was out. Just gonna lay around today and try to keep food up thankfully its an off day today

  24. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    Alright guys i need some insomnia help, is there anyone on here that has a hard time sleeping, i went to bed at 10 hoping to get some much needed sleep didnt actually fall asleep until about 12 or 1 and then woke up at 4 when my wife got out of bed to take the dog out here it is 5 in the morning i cant sleep im pizzed off i have tried every walmart pill for sleep also tried 3z by AI and REMPM by man sports neither of those worked either. I know one of the largest components to results is sleep and i just dont get any. I took 9g melatonin and sleepy time tea and guess whos still awake? This guy!



    Call the doctor
    Ask for a prescription for Remeron

    or

    Call the doctor
    Ask for a prescription called Periactin


    Both put you to sleep... but both ALSO have an AWESOME side effect: drastically increased hunger

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Thomasxavier View Post

    Call the doctor
    Ask for a prescription for Remeron

    or

    Call the doctor
    Ask for a prescription called Periactin

    Both put you to sleep... but both ALSO have an AWESOME side effect: drastically increased hunger
    I wish it were that easy i have to make an appt. And unless i want some new guy who wont right a script for shzt i have to wait months to see someone

  26. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    I wish it were that easy i have to make an appt. And unless i want some new guy who wont right a script for shzt i have to wait months to see someone
    No, it really is that easy. One is a common antidepressant, and one is a common antihistamine. Any doctor will prescribe either on the spot without hesitation. I don't think you need to even go in, you can do it on the phone.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift

    Well i currently feel like a freight train has hit me very lethargic with flu like symptoms i still killed legs today and went up weight on everything but just feel kinda crummy i have ran sd before felt some lethargy but not like this. Hoping it goes away soon. Weight still steadily increasing eating a ton 4000+ on workout days feel like my waist is increasing but its bulking season and i need to eat to gain the most muscle possible over the next 12 weeks so im letting those abs say goodbye for now after all abs on a skinny guy are like big tits on a fat chick
    I hear you bro get swole. It must be the letro you were taking because I thought you shouldn't feel lethargic on test

  28. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    All i have is letro on hand. Ive read .5 mg eod is good but it seems that everyone is in favor of adex will letro suffice at. 5 mg eod or no
    Letro is the strongest at combatting stubborn estrogen and gyno! IMO I think it'd be best taken ED instead of EOD

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  29. Quote Originally Posted by WPChickDiesel

    Letro is the strongest at combatting stubborn estrogen and gyno! IMO I think it'd be best taken ED instead of EOD

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    Letro is good at crushing estrogen. Remember you need estrogen in the right ratios to make gains, lubricate joints, libido etc etc etc. There are far better options out there to maintain healthy levels.

  30. This flu is kicking my azz i have managed to still eat over 3k calories today and may need to taylor diet down a bit i feel im putting way to much fat on but i want to eat enough to make gains do i just put up with a little fat and keep doing what im doing or drop my calories a bit
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