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    Letro is the strongest at combatting stubborn estrogen and gyno! IMO I think it'd be best taken ED instead of EOD

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    Eating back to normal still not 100% from being sick but i killed chest and arms today massive pump felt really alpha this is wrapping up the end of my second week weight up about 15 lbs but have put on some fat and water but im just eating my face off its time to get big todays post workout meal 1lb bbq chicken 2 serving quinoa and 4 large sweet potatos

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    Test flu sucks. Glad to see you're ok bro! How is the mass going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sankha View Post
    Test flu sucks. Glad to see you're ok bro! How is the mass going?
    Well im puttin on more bodyfat then i wanted but oh well im just eating bro eat eat eat lift sleep repeat i just have fat fear but im not going to limit my gains by eating less so im just keeping it as clean as possible and shovelin
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    Oh well, maybe eat a bit cleaner? No carbs before bed might help aswell. Keep us posted man. A lil bit of fat doesnt matter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sankha
    Oh well, maybe eat a bit cleaner? No carbs before bed might help aswell. Keep us posted man. A lil bit of fat doesnt matter!
    Yeah keep eating but maybe swap out some of the simple carbs in rice/wheat foods for some more veggies?
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    Well i havent quite decided whether or not its water and or fat. If it was fat i would taylor my carbs down a little because i know when i was using LG i ate 400 carbs workout days and i have kept that pretty consistant with 6 meals a day shooting for only 450 g carbs. The main thing i really upped was my protein im at 350g dailey on workout days and 400 on off days. Fat i have increased a tad from my LG days i consume 88g fat workout days and like 150g on off days. I just didnt know if my body is confused because i have made alot of drastic changes going back to 6 meals a day injecting test kickstarting sd i think my body is one confused sum b**ch so its just saying F U im storin water cuz ur a crazy mother lol. Or if i just need to drop calories i have read somewhere while not 100% how reliable of a source it truely is. One should shoot for 2000 additional clean calories while "on". I havent went to quite that extreme but i have upped from 3100 calories on workout days to 4000 and 2600ish to 3500 on off days and pretty much kept the same ratios that has worked well for me from LG i figured if i put on a little extra flab ill know better for next time around im going to make many mistakes with bodybuilding as we all do but i have a lifetime to experiment
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    If its water you should eat less salt (nitrate i think?) eat more veggies! See how that goes. Especially after your illness getting those vitamines in is very important.

    -cut down salt
    -switch a lil bit of simple carbs for complex carbs
    -get those vitamines in!

    What can go wrong?
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    I garentee you it's mostly water. For every gram of carbs you eat it's like 3 grams of water or something like that
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    Serious bro! It's impossible to gain that amount of fat in such a short period of time, at least it is with clean foods your eating. I put water weight on so easy myself and I always think its fat. This will be a mental game for u. Accept the water weight, cut down on carbs later in the day and keep killing it bro. Get huge :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    Serious bro! It's impossible to gain that amount of fat in such a short period of time, at least it is with clean foods your eating. I put water weight on so easy myself and I always think its fat. This will be a mental game for u. Accept the water weight, cut down on carbs later in the day and keep killing it bro. Get huge :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    I garentee you it's mostly water. For every gram of carbs you eat it's like 3 grams of water or something like that
    Thanks ill remember that glad to have u following
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    Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    Serious bro! It's impossible to gain that amount of fat in such a short period of time, at least it is with clean foods your eating. I put water weight on so easy myself and I always think its fat. This will be a mental game for u. Accept the water weight, cut down on carbs later in the day and keep killing it bro. Get huge :-)
    At night is when i have most of my carbs because i workout in the evenings. But thats how i have done it the past 7 months and i got shredded doing so so i dont quite buy into the no carbs after 7 or whatever it is since i have evening workouts thoughts suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post

    At night is when i have most of my carbs because i workout in the evenings. But thats how i have done it the past 7 months and i got shredded doing so so i dont quite buy into the no carbs after 7 or whatever it is since i have evening workouts thoughts suggestions?
    Haha I'm just stuck in my own world as I lift at 4am so disregard my last statement. I DO however notice a difference with MY schedule but that doesn't apply to u so never mind. My only advice would be to enjoy the ride but don't stress and over analyze. Make small tweaks based on what has worked in the past.
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    Here is today up 15 lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    Here is today up 15 lbs

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    Lookin great great bro! Keep it up. Btw minimal fat gain!
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift
    Here is today up 15 lbs

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    Still looking lean there LTL!
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    Looking good man. Def still lean as fuk
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    You are paranoid about the fat gain, aren't you... All that worry and you are leaner than a lot of guys after a "cut"...
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    Soooooo why were you worried exactly? Stop worrying and start enjoying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sankha View Post
    Soooooo why were you worried exactly? Stop worrying and start enjoying!
    Fine sir i took ur advice and here is an amazing post workout meal i pulled from a book its called GLOP for get lots of protein it has 2 bags birdseye steamer bag brown rice, 2 servings fat free cottage cheese, 1lb of the leanest ground turkey u can find, and half a jar of picante hot sauce mmmm good macros are 126 prot,152 carb, 35 fat depending on turkey u use.

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    That sounds bomb!!!
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    Awwww yeah!!! Good going bro! How's the training and stuff going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sankha View Post
    Awwww yeah!!! Good going bro! How's the training and stuff going?
    Man its awesome when i started i was flat dumbell pressing the 80's im now using the 95's started squatting 250 now at 275 overhead dumbell press is up bent over rows up im having a blast with the weights i just have a complex about putting on water and fat but fock it gettin huge i can cut later tis the season to get big. Monday began my 3rd week i upped my sd to 30mg and plan on running that all of week 3 and 4 then the test will be kickin in lol im set brother
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    Holy sh*t geeting swole for sure up 27 lbs veigns in places i didnt know was possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift
    Holy sh*t geeting swole for sure up 27 lbs veigns in places i didnt know was possible
    Sounds like a damn good deal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post

    Sounds like a damn good deal!
    And im only in week 3 i still have 9 weeks to go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    Holy sh*t geeting swole for sure up 27 lbs veigns in places i didnt know was possible
    Proves what a lot of people say "you will see better results if you are lean".

    Congrats man. You getting accused of being on gear yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post

    Proves what a lot of people say "you will see better results if you are lean".

    Congrats man. You getting accused of being on gear yet?
    Happened yesterday and today lol
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    Quick update yesterday and todays diet is safe to say the worst i have ate in probably a year but our family celebrated christmas this weekend and our christmas dinner was what? PIZZA HUT! Did i mention i use to be fat as a kid, i wonder why. Anyways get home to the parents house and walked right into freshly made fudge candy chocolates pizza etc. Got up today and was going to find a gym to hit chest and arms and no gym was open this weekend FAURK!!! Go back to my moms pizzed off and started going through the garage and found an old weight set i had when i was 13 only had 100 lbs but i made do. Also found an old shizty bench so hit incline and flat bench lol grabbed 2 logs and did incline and flat flys rambo style. Then proceeded to do straight barbell curls which was great because i had enough weight. Then wanted to do concentration curls lol get this i took a 2 5lb plates and 2 2.5lb plates along with a stick and made my dumbbell for my concentration curls lol. Then did overhead barbell extensions skull crushers then used the logs again for log kickbacks lol. I didnt take not having a gym as an option and the thing is i got a pretty good workout lol
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    Dedication! That's legit... I got sick of the gyms hours when I moved back to the US that I bought my own bench, squat rack and curl bars... Makes it easier to hit 2x a days.
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    You my friend are epic! Hahaha the level of testosteron is to damn high!
    Clean up your diet and keep us posted. Did your family say anything about your gains?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sankha View Post
    You my friend are epic! Hahaha the level of testosteron is to damn high!
    Clean up your diet and keep us posted. Did your family say anything about your gains?
    Lol well we r back home now so diet will be back on track thank god. And my family knows im on test i dont like hiding things from my mom and my sis is a nurse so i asked her questions before starting regarding injections
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    20 lbs in three weeks? thats retarted man.
    are you using just straight SD or is it a clone /designer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    20 lbs in three weeks? thats retarted man.
    are you using just straight SD or is it a clone /designer?
    Beastdrol and im also on 500mg test E
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post

    Beastdrol and im also on 500mg test E
    Right, not that I know much about cycles, never done one, but I thought test takes like three or four Weeks to build up any ways
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    Dang holiday bad food anyways abs are almost gone arms chest and shoulders have grown incredibly though

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post

    Right, not that I know much about cycles, never done one, but I thought test takes like three or four Weeks to build up any ways
    Well look at pic its definately not all muscle lol i started at 155 weighed in today at 187. So 32 lbs today is the start of week 4 granted my diet was really cruddy this week so im holding a ton of water right now i think, because just 1 week ago i was 174 and there is no way i gained 13 lbs of fat in a week its impossible so im just getting my diet back to where it was a week ago shooting for 4k on workout days and 3500 on off days and in a week ill see where my weight is and see if i shed any water. The way i look at it is i hate being small and refuse to be small any more so if i put on a little fat during this cycle just to ensure i ate adequate amounts of food to grow so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    Dang holiday bad food anyways abs are almost gone arms chest and shoulders have grown incredibly though

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    Bro looking big buddy. Very impressed my friend. Don't worry about the ****ty food, it's done with, get back on track, you're holding water it'll be gone in a few days, just drink more water to help flush it out. Keep gaining you have the right mindset buddy merry Christmas
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    Helluva job bro, keep at it. You can always lean back out. Take advantage of the AAS, eat and continue to grow!
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