New Test-C/Havoc Cycle. What are your thoughts?

  1. New Test-C/Havoc Cycle. What are your thoughts?


    My buddys father has a legal prescription to Testosterone-Cypionate capsules. He has given me enough to run a cycle with. This is not my first cycle, just my first cycle with pure Testosterone.

    Cycle
    Test-C (pills): 8 weeks @ 300mg per week.
    Havoc: Last four weeks, 60/60/60/60.
    Arimidex: 1mg EOD or when needed.
    PCT
    Toremifene: 60/60/60/60
    Arimidex: If needed
    E-Control Rx
    Support Supplements
    Multivitamin
    Fish Oil
    B-Complex
    Muscle Milk (plenty)
    Glycomaize Waxy Maize Carbs (plenty)
    Diet will be on point. High protein, low simple carbs.
    I am not looking to gain anymore than 10 lbs from this cycle. My main goal is to bulk up a little bit while maintaining a hard, cut up look.

    Let me know what you think.


  2. cycle test wise way too short, it kicks in really late in most cases
    also i never heard of cyp caps, but ill assume 300mg in caps isnt 300mg active test.....injecting test cyp you only get 70% per 100mg, so i would think caps are drastically lower
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by sking6464 View Post
    cycle test wise way too short, it kicks in really late in most cases
    also i never heard of cyp caps, but ill assume 300mg in caps isnt 300mg active test.....injecting test cyp you only get 70% per 100mg, so i would think caps are drastically lower
    I didn't think that test was orally available at all, unless you ate some transdermal gel
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  4. he says he has script pills, so i dunno, but never heard of trt in pill form, its just useless from decades of research

    andriol anyone?
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    I didn't think that test was orally available at all, unless you ate some transdermal gel
    well, I'm wrong! Just found a pub-med study on oral test-und. interesting
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    well, I'm wrong! Just found a pub-med study on oral test-und. interesting
    test und has a ridiculous long half life , came about for trt patients minimizing frequency of injections......so for purposes of an 8wk cycle its useless and be a nightmare to time pct without bloodwork
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by sking6464 View Post
    test und has a ridiculous long half life , came about for trt patients minimizing frequency of injections......so for purposes of an 8wk cycle its useless and be a nightmare to time pct without bloodwork
    well I didn't dig around too much so I'd imagine if they were able to oralize test-und, then changing the esther to dec, enan, or cyp wouldn't be much of an issue. i'm obviously guessing here
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