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    SD/TEST/VAR Time to recomp


    After much deliberation and getting tons of goodies, I have finally decided on the next cycle I will be running. Im ready for input and thoughts. I think this will be a great cycle. My goal is to just do a full recomp and get as cut as possible. Cardio will be 30 mins every day and will be mostly steady state moderate speed elliptical with interval training thrown in on days I feel like it. The key is to actually stick to the diet and cardio as much as possible as I put mad work in on my lifts. I really want to make the most of this cycle. Haven't decided on logging it yet or not but will be posting before and afters at some point probably in this thread. Also if I do log it I will do so here and I'll do a much better job of logging this one lol.

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    DAA 3 grams for 6 weeks starting with clomid
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    300-400 grams protein daily
    130 grams carbs daily
    30-40 grams fat daily
    2500-3000 calories daily
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    Gonna smash this ****. Tired of being a fat guy lol. Tomorrow I begin takin shots and swallowing pills...oh the joy!
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    Been wanting to run this cycle myself. Wish i cud get mY hands on some test tho. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes
    Been wanting to run this cycle myself. Wish i cud get mY hands on some test tho. :/

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    I hear ya i had ordered my test from a local and he took my cash and skipped town there goes my source for my winter bulk

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    Dude that frigging blows. I don't know why dudes wanna be scamming folks.
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    Couldn't help it bros. Tomorrow was gonna be the day but I had the woman put 300mgs of wonderful oil in my cheek. Begin eating the SD tomorrow in the morning. Plan on hitting legs and shoulders. Prolly wont be too exciting for a while but off we go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift

    I hear ya i had ordered my test from a local and he took my cash and skipped town there goes my source for my winter bulk
    That's f*cked bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000

    That's f*cked bro!
    Yea i didnt order online because i didnt want to get scammed so i went local and still got screwed

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    Nommed down 30 mgs of SD today. Noticed slight headache towards the evening. Took them about 4-5 hours apart (10mg pills). Figure that'll subside when I get used to em. Nothing special in the gym today. Slightly better pump if anything. Going to hit macro goals by end of day for sure.
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    if looking to get cut id cut the test dose in half, too much test for your goal
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    Quote Originally Posted by sking6464
    if looking to get cut id cut the test dose in half, too much test for your goal
    Thx for input. Personally I think the diet is gonna control the weight gain/loss more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabz View Post
    Thx for input. Personally I think the diet is gonna control the weight gain/loss more than anything.
    try it your way i guess, but from alot of exp, a maintenance test dose is ideal in your setup
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    depending on your cardio should be a decent recomp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sking6464

    try it your way i guess, but from alot of exp, a maintenance test dose is ideal in your setup
    Yeah I figure if it don't go we'll Ill cut it back next time. Long time to experiment lol. All this info is super helpful no doubt. Thanks.
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    I'm subbed,

    Plan on running a very similar cycle the end of November,
    1-4 superdrol
    1-12 test e 500 mg week
    1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    9-14 anavar

    Whats you work out routine look like? I plan on running 531 big but boring with carbs centered around work outs keeping them clean and low on off days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedMass
    I'm subbed,

    Plan on running a very similar cycle the end of November,
    1-4 superdrol
    1-12 test e 500 mg week
    1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    9-14 anavar

    Whats you work out routine look like? I plan on running 531 big but boring with carbs centered around work outs keeping them clean and low on off days.
    I usually hit everything twice a week. 3-4 lifts per body group and I do one day in the lower rep range like 4-8 and then one day in higher 10-15 range. Ill post a few days for examples. I hope you enjoy the cycle bro. Ill be following it for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabz

    I usually hit everything twice a week. 3-4 lifts per body group and I do one day in the lower rep range like 4-8 and then one day in higher 10-15 range. Ill post a few days for examples. I hope you enjoy the cycle bro. Ill be following it for sure.
    So kind of similar to PHAT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift

    So kind of similar to PHAT?
    Perhaps in the fact that it involves heavy and light lifts. Don't know much about phat other than its a combination of powerlifting and high volume training. I honestly have a pretty feel as I go philosophy with lifting. I take a lot of Arnold's mentality as far as getting the most muscle fibers activated through hitting most angles and making sure to lift high and low volumes. Some weeks I stay in the higher rep range and shoot to right user failure. But I do my best to get heavy days in too.
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    Get it done man! Looking forward to seeing how the Anavar does you. I'm looking into a similar cycle myself. You should see some awesome results based on everything I have read thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine
    Get it done man! Looking forward to seeing how the Anavar does you. I'm looking into a similar cycle myself. You should see some awesome results based on everything I have read thus far.
    Definitely hoping so. As long as I make sure to hit my cardio every day I think it'll go we'll.
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    Well today is definitely the day I can say I feel on. Everything on my body gets pumped as **** from everything I do. The SD is clearly in effect. No headache to speak of. Been taking all 30 mgs in a 12 hour period since Saturday. Will be in the gym tomorrow after another pin of test tonight. I am actually still sore from the first pin but that's normal and there is no tightness or discoloration or bruise. Virgin meat getting jabbed usually stays sore the first poke or two. Updates later in the week.
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    Sweet bro kill that sh** looking forward to hear how this cycle treats u. SD is awesome just hate the backpumps that and minor lethargy are the only sides i noticed on sd, will be running again to kickstart my test cycle once i find a reliable source for test

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    This cycle is almost the exact same as what I'm planning on running next year, even same goals. Definitely in on this, kill it bro!
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    Bout to pin again in opposite glute. I'm in serious ass pain in the other glute. Sucks ass. Real tight but no heat or redness so I know it's gotta be the BA in the gear. Was really hoping it wouldn't get me all super sore. Maybe the next couple won't be as bad.
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    Never been in this much pain from a shot before. Sucks so much ass. Still no discoloration or heat but its knotted like a bitch. Not raised up or anything but its killing me. Oh well. Price to pay to be on I guess. Putting a heating pack on it tonight.
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    Quick update. Ass cheeks finally getting better. Did delt shots this week with only .5cc and that seems to be much better. Last weigh in was 225 lbs. I've gotten too much fat so I'm experimenting with cals this following week to see what's up. Strength gains are already happening from the superdrol and the pump is nasty. However I must say that I preferred the feeling of 40mgs of dbol. I feel pretty lethargic where on dbol I didn't feel that way. I can tell even though the test is long ester that its helping because random wood has been accruing more often and nailing the wife is more fun. As far as gym goes I don't hurl a ton of weight but 80lbs DB presses feel like 60s to me. Ill be back on 100s soon I can tell. Curling 55lbs for 7-10 perfect reps with DBS. My legs suck so ill really be working them hard this cycle. Lots of one legged stuff because of all the Surgery on my right knee. Actually have an appt for a cortisone shot next week to help swelling. This week also starts 7 day a week cardio. Begging workouts coming with next weeks workouts. Ill base all improvements off that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabz View Post
    Well today is definitely the day I can say I feel on. Everything on my body gets pumped as **** from everything I do. The SD is clearly in effect. No headache to speak of. Been taking all 30 mgs in a 12 hour period since Saturday. Will be in the gym tomorrow after another pin of test tonight. I am actually still sore from the first pin but that's normal and there is no tightness or discoloration or bruise. Virgin meat getting jabbed usually stays sore the first poke or two. Updates later in the week.
    My first test shot hurt my right quad for almost 2 weeks. After 4 weeks of injecting my mucles are finally use to the juice and don't get sore anymore.

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    Feeling awesome as of late. Only complaint is that right nipple is getting small bump above it and its sore. I started hitting it with adex three days ago and it's improved some. .5 Friday and Saturday. If this **** don't give I'll slam it with Letro. F some gyno. Super ready for gym tomorrow. Strength going up steadily. More updates later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabz
    Feeling awesome as of late. Only complaint is that right nipple is getting small bump above it and its sore. I started hitting it with adex three days ago and it's improved some. .5 Friday and Saturday. If this **** don't give I'll slam it with Letro. F some gyno. Super ready for gym tomorrow. Strength going up steadily. More updates later.
    If its not the cheek it's the nip. Keep that ish coming man. I'm eager to see how this cycle pans outs for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine

    If its not the cheek it's the nip. Keep that ish coming man. I'm eager to see how this cycle pans outs for you.
    Lol yeah crap happens. I expected some sensitivity in the right nip cuz that's common for me but I just don't care for this SD in comparison to dbol. The up side is I killed gym for sure today. Doing grand in there. I'm dropping the SD effective now. Having some stomach pain and gut is tight as hell from bloat. Taking .5 adex again tonight before bed to help. Ill prolly never do sd again unless its hella low dose. Seems to be great **** just a little much for me lol. For some more positives though, weight is at 230lbs and feeling amazing. Destroyed cardio again today in hopes that daily cardio will eliminate some more fat and bloat. Going to be doing 7 day a week cardio u till cycle ends from this week on. Ill be adding in Anavar 4 weeks from next Monday which will help as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabz

    Lol yeah crap happens. I expected some sensitivity in the right nip cuz that's common for me but I just don't care for this SD in comparison to dbol. The up side is I killed gym for sure today. Doing grand in there. I'm dropping the SD effective now. Having some stomach pain and gut is tight as hell from bloat. Taking .5 adex again tonight before bed to help. Ill prolly never do sd again unless its hella low dose. Seems to be great **** just a little much for me lol. For some more positives though, weight is at 230lbs and feeling amazing. Destroyed cardio again today in hopes that daily cardio will eliminate some more fat and bloat. Going to be doing 7 day a week cardio u till cycle ends from this week on. Ill be adding in Anavar 4 weeks from next Monday which will help as well.
    Yeah I'm looking forward to that Anavar run fa sho

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    Decided to cut back to 20mgs instead of dropping sd. Appetite seem slightly better. Will know for sure in a couple days. Gotta get these gains.
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    if bloated/carrying bf, var will let you down.......iv run it many times
    again id highly recommend dropping test to a maintenance dose, its the cause of the estrogen issues and the bloat and your dosage contradicts your goal.....careful not to put too much stock into the var
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    Quote Originally Posted by sking6464
    jmo
    if bloated/carrying bf, var will let you down.......iv run it many times
    again id highly recommend dropping test to a maintenance dose, its the cause of the estrogen issues and the bloat and your dosage contradicts your goal.....careful not to put too much stock into the var
    Everything that I have read says that var will Definetly eliminate visceral fat and produce lean mass. Muscle hardening and cutting is what you get the most out of Var. maybe you got bad sources

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine View Post
    Everything that I have read says that var will Definetly eliminate visceral fat and produce lean mass. Muscle hardening and cutting is what you get the most out of Var. maybe you got bad sources
    you are reading too much into its hype
    it helps in those areas, HOWEVER, any user who isnt reasonably cut will not notice these changes outside the hardening and strength increase
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    Quick update. Gyno symptoms subsiding nicely. No lump or bump anymore. Kept SD at 10mg instead of dropping it. Will run it another week this way. Strength goin way up in gym. 100lbs DB bench for 10 reps each set. 225 on decline for 10. These are good numbers for me since I am a vag. Getting some back pumps so will start taurine now. Very exited about where this cycle is going. Can't get my phone to upload progress pic so ill get on CPU later.
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