Hella cycle...First cycle ever.
10-19-2012 05:38 PM
Hella cycle...First cycle ever.
I have done research high and low and have finally gotten a full blood work with everything being normal and my cholestrol even being a bit low.
My test levels are 432 if i remember correctly!
22 years old
198.7 - 201 lbs (fluctuates)
Been lifting since 16 but got serious around 18 with a full blown diet and hardcore training and cardio. I use to weigh about 308 lbs at my peak fat stages at around 15 years old. I have a muscular build with the 6 pack already visible.
Finally decided to run a cycle! Im going to be doing a recomp/cut while on cycle to cut off the excess stomach area as it refuses to go no matter what i do so ill be doing a calorie deficit diet.
AI Cycle Assist(as per directions im assuming)
Helladrol: 50/75/75/75/75/75 (might bump to 100 final week or 2 depending on sides)
Taurine as needed
Multi: orange triad (contains full joint complex)
AI Cycle assist to untill its done (i have 2)
Multi: Orange Triad
AI post cycle support
DAA(this stuff gives me headaches so if it does i might just discontinue use of it)
OTHER SUPPS I HAVE:
1X Lean xtreme
My blood pressure is naturally low, like on the lowest end of normal or a bit lower and i drink coffee regularly.
Im assuming the cycle supports and all that will not drop it any lower while on cycle?
I want to just pre-load cycle support for a couple days or a week max, do you guys think this is a really bad idea?
Im prone to anxiety but i dont think Hella will give me anxiety, can you guys confirm that?
10-19-2012 09:42 PM
Really? Sucks that much that no one wants to even reply huh guys? Lol
10-19-2012 11:18 PM
Blood preassure won't get lower on cycle.. Pre load support supps 1-2 weeks, 1 would be fine.. Anxiety might be a triggered a lil more on cycle, but a very low chance i'd think.. If the DAA gives u headaches try use it for 2 weeks days then stop, i reckon it helps with a quicker recovery, if its good quality..
10-20-2012 05:01 AM
Ok then.. Is everything else fine? I know you guys see thousands of these hdrol first cycle posts but it would really ease my mind!
10-20-2012 09:44 AM
10-20-2012 07:28 PM
10-21-2012 12:02 AM
if people arnt respnding, its usually either perfect, or hella fuking stupid. yours is pretty much perfect
the only thing id add is erase during pct to prevent estro rebound. something like 0/0/3/3/2/1 so it extends after the serm. if youre worried about lethargy, you can toss in a test base and get even more gains. a 4-dhea product like ams 4ad or alpha mass would be the best bang for your buck.
and for the preload, the point is to start hawthorne berry early because it gives an initial bp spike. if you start it at the same time as hdrol, that would be a double bp spike. bad day
10-21-2012 02:46 PM
How long does the hawthorne berry take to actually start to lower your BP?
10-21-2012 04:44 PM
For me it's about the first week.
Originally Posted by P.Muscle
10-22-2012 04:17 AM
Thank you so much guys! I
One last question... How do you guys typically dose all this? I does it matter if you take the hella with or without food?
I know you guys usually take hella with a fish oil cap or two.
10-23-2012 09:00 PM
Ok everything is going great here on my second day of hella... Mild acne but it could also be from the hair coming out after waxing a couple weeks ago.
I have hit a wall though! I need some help from the community as I'm stuck!
So in my other post I said I have naturally low blood pressure... Well i started checking it today and everything and it seems to be REALLY low. I my BP is at 95 over 60 with a 60 heart rate when rested at its best! I was thinking about half dosing the cycle support but I know that liver care is in there too and I beleive I need that at full recommended dose.. Should I just get liv52 and dose that with half dose cycle support!?!
10-23-2012 11:45 PM
Why are you so worried about low blood preassure an low H/R? I think 90 /60 is considered low, but ur only 22 so the lower the better really.. Hawthorn berry isnt going to cause it to be even lower, its only a natural product
10-24-2012 03:28 AM
I honestly don't know why I'm so caught up with blood pressure but it trips me out to be honest. Whether it be too low or too high.. I try not to think about it too much so I don't start getting anxiety though. Can anyone else chime in that hawthorn berry and celery seed doesn't lower blood pressure any further in my case?
11-03-2012 06:01 AM
Almost into week 3 of my hella cycle on monday. 50mg for the first 4 days then upped to 75 with pretty much no sides. Feeling good all around, still chewing tobacco even though i wanted to quit and sometimes feel weird when i put in a fat lip. Mentally i feel like i can push more weight but for the most part im around the same weight in training but can get the weights up easier and focus more on contraction. Noticibly more vascular and leaner but up 3-4 lbs on the scale. BP is good and low around 110 or lower.
I was gnna save creatine mono for pct but kind of want to start adding it in at 5 grams a day. You guys think it might be too much stress on the liver? I know there are mixed looks on this subject.
11-03-2012 06:36 PM
Gee thnks..no one amswered!
If you guys come around to answering can someone lso tell me if taking taurine hinders absorbtion of the hella if tken close to it like lets saay after a hella dosage?
11-03-2012 06:46 PM
No it won't. While taurine is thought to have antioxidant properties its not going to hinder anything from something as strong as hella.
Originally Posted by P.Muscle
11-03-2012 08:27 PM
Creatine does not stress your liver. Get back on it.
11-03-2012 11:28 PM
creatine doesnt harm the liver. and unless you do a week loading period, itll take a month to fully saturate anyways, might as well start now so youre good when pct comes
11-07-2012 04:35 AM
Thanks guys! Started crearine dosage today. Im in my third week now but my balls are still huge. Are they suppose to shrink at all? I still have the same libido too but i do get lethargic as hell lately. Should i bump dose to 100?
11-07-2012 05:12 AM
Dose you cycle support at least 4 hrs after ur ph.
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