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    M1A vs SD


    Alright guys it's getting to be that time...TO GO BACK ON

    I've got like 12 bottles of SD chilling, but for some reason I want to try something new. I'm thinking about M1A.

    To those of you who have run BOTH, which did you prefer and why?

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    Haven't ran both but from what I've seen and read sd for sure an pick up something else to add if u want. Lmg, maybe epi.
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    Use search function.

    nom nom nom, yummy, thanks for the recommendation.
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    Lol Rhadam. Not much out there on M1A. Seems to be an overlooked compound. My biggest question is whether or not it's good, and if perhaps supply/availability has hindered use.

    Anybody out there?
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    M1A as in alpha 1? Alpha1 is pretty strong. I don't know if there are any clones currently made though. SD is much more available. In terms of toxicity i'd assume they are pretty close. Unfortunately Alpha1 was something i didn't look in to that much so i can't be of much help. If i remember correctly it's already active but can convert to M1T?
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    You're correct on the compound, and there is a clone out now by Shredded Labs. The one guy I talked to who has used it says it's the best thing he's ever ran.

    I never ran M1T, but I would have had I been in the game back then. People talk about M1A and M1T the same way they do about SD (it's poison...you'll die if you take it...blah blah), and I don't think SD is really that severe. In fact I love SD.

    Got plenty of SD....still thinking about M1A...
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    SD isn't that bad lol.

    I can't really consider M1A and M1T in the same light, as they are not equal. But as an active compound, they are both strong. And yes for SD or M1A i would recommend 250+ grams of UDCA/TUDCA a day.
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    You can still get m1t from across the pond. I don't know how that would factor in to your situation but...its still out there if thats what you really want.
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    I can source the M1T from the UK but I'd prefer to avoid importing something illegal. I've got a business to run, and I wouldn't jeopardize it for M1T.

    TUDCA is on deck. I've got plenty.

    I might just buy the M1A and give it a shot. If I do, I'll log it for you guys.
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    Yeah I can understand that. And I'd definitely be interested in that M1A log.
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    I ran A1 once before in a short bridge. It was by far the best compound for strength hands down. Better than SD. I would run it again but only with test to jump start a longer cycle. As it shuts you down just as quick as it kicks in. And not having any test while on it makes you feel pretty lethargic. But, I got so strong on it and kept the majority of the gains. Size was good too as I was doing a bulk at the time. It is definitely as harsh if not more than SD. So be prepared. If you eat big and lift hard you won't be disappointed.
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    hagels - Thank you for your input. I've heard that the strength comes on quick, which is my favorite part of a cycle. Honestly, SD kind of makes me sad with the immediate size gains and deflation after cycle (I know how to PCT...but some of that size is just plain bloat). I think I'll run dermacrine possibly stano with M1A.

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    M1A is ordered. I'm going to run it solo, but if I'm feeling froggy I might throw in some Stano in the last week (wk 4) and bridge it into a 6 week cycle.

    Thoughts? Definitely going to log this.
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    Very interested in this exact product! Will follow ur log closely man, best of luck to you

    Also, stano would be awesome on this run and IMO help solidify the gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    M1A is ordered. I'm going to run it solo, but if I'm feeling froggy I might throw in some Stano in the last week (wk 4) and bridge it into a 6 week cycle.

    Thoughts? Definitely going to log this.
    I would probably run the stano all the way through, maybe even start it a week before the A1. By week 3 I was really lethargic but was strong as an ox when lifting. The aggression from the A1 is great too. I ran it 40/60/60/40 (1 bottle, 3.5 weeks). I would try and bridge it into something else or use it to kickstart a longer cycle.
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    Still feeling on the edge about Shredded Labs, would be good to get some feedback through the cycle to see that it actually works. Could just be an expensive bottle of SD, you don't know unless it's tested.
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    If I notice a serious difference between M1A and SD I might save 1 pill and send it to PA with $100 to test it. It would be worth it to me to know what I took.
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    Ive used both superdrol and M1Alpha... ive never been so strong in my life as when i took M1A (great size too). Definitely worth trying at least once, you won't be disappointed. Results are at least equal to or better than superdrol...Sides are no worse either...had some lethargy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    If I notice a serious difference between M1A and SD I might save 1 pill and send it to PA with $100 to test it. It would be worth it to me to know what I took.
    I guess, last i checked his machines were pretty shotty, horribly taken care of.
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    soma - thank you for your input. My M1A should be here in a day or two...I'm going to start the day after I receive it.

    Rhadam - are you talking about Shredded Labs' machines or PA's testing facility?
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    I'm interested to see how you go.

    I've got some Shredded Labs Alpha-1 coming either today or tomorrow.
    Looking for some dry lean gains.
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    Just got mine today and I'm about to go lift in an hour. I'm going to start it up tonight. I'm going to run it 4 weeks at 40 and bridge into stano at week 4 to take it to 7 weeks.
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    Day 1 M1A

    Dose: 20 mg right when I wake up, 20mg an hour or 2 before workout (between 6-9pm 5 days/week)
    Other sups: Creatine mono, organ shield (2 caps), fish oil

    Lifted chest tonight. Was pumped to take the first dose, so focus was ON POINT tonight. Lifts were about the same, nothing remarkable.

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    Diet will be a bulk. Starting at 3000kcal and hoping to get to 4000kcal.

    Lifts will be 5x5. Going for strength here. Goal is to hit 4 plates on DL.

    Current lifts:

    225 bench (205 incline - never use spotter so don't know max)
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    Want to smash this cycle and put on a good 10lb.

    Most importantly, I want to let you guys know about the efficacy of Shredded Labs M1A. If it's bunk, I don't want any of you bros to waste your cash. If it's solid, it will be nice to know where to find a good M1A clone.

    Thanks for all the support in advance,

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    Good stuff man, really interested to see how you feel at about 5-7 day mark. That will be a good judge of the potency. I'll be watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG
    Day 1 M1A


    Most importantly, I want to let you guys know about the efficacy of Shredded Labs M1A. If it's bunk, I don't want any of you bros to waste your cash. If it's solid, it will be nice to know where to find a good M1A clone.

    Thanks for all the support in advance,

    Donny
    I'm gonna be using mine, same dosage, but for a cut/recomp cycle.
    I've seen too many mixed reviews that it adds either wet or dry weight.
    One way to find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Good stuff man, really interested to see how you feel at about 5-7 day mark. That will be a good judge of the potency. I'll be watching.
    Right. When I ran Alpha 1 I noticed that it definitely kicked in quicker than SD. But I was also running 60mg by week 2 as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam

    I guess, last i checked his machines were pretty shotty, horribly taken care of.
    Oh man, Lmao, now I see.
    You trying to dance with fire eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    I guess, last i checked his machines were pretty shotty, horribly taken care of.
    Ive just seen pictures of his machines..I think it was in one of truth or nothing's threads.. they showed the inside of Pats Lab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    Alright guys it's getting to be that time...TO GO BACK ON

    I've got like 12 bottles of SD chilling, but for some reason I want to try something new. I'm thinking about M1A.

    To those of you who have run BOTH, which did you prefer and why?

    To all those who tell me to use the search button, go search a dick.

    Thanks,

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    Thanks for all the feedback. Second dose this morning went down kind of burning my throat (good sign that there's SOMETHING in there). Was a little dizzy today by about 4pm. Not sure if it's bp or if I was just hungry, but I'll let you guys know if it persists. One week mark will be interesting.

    Oz - good luck with your cycle bro. Hope you crush.

    Blerg - I've had fair results with oral only cycles. I want to pin, but I know my gf would lose her mind. Not worth losing her over gear.

    I'm not in it for the 20lb wet gains. If I put on 15 and keep 5 when it's all said and done, I'm happy. Lifting is a marathon, gear just makes it that much more fun.
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    M1A was my very first cycle so I responded really well even with a **** diet and **** training. That was probably 6 years ago and since I have ran one more attempt with an M1A clone but it was bunk. Had really good luck with MDROL (SD clone) from CEL multiples times. Ran it 3 weeks at 10,20, 30 mg. Ran it 3 weeks at 30,30,30. And even ran it closing out a Test E cycle at 5 mg per workout day for 2 months. That last run really cememented my gains which I have kept forever. But I dont reccommend it. It never completely shut me down, but I think it was just too hard on my body (i.e. acne, and obvious related hormonal conditions).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTFfootball
    M1A was my very first cycle so I responded really well even with a **** diet and **** training. That was probably 6 years ago and since I have ran one more attempt with an M1A clone but it was bunk. Had really good luck with MDROL (SD clone) from CEL multiples times. Ran it 3 weeks at 10,20, 30 mg. Ran it 3 weeks at 30,30,30. And even ran it closing out a Test E cycle at 5 mg per workout day for 2 months. That last run really cememented my gains which I have kept forever. But I dont reccommend it. It never completely shut me down, but I think it was just too hard on my body (i.e. acne, and obvious related hormonal conditions).
    I'm fairly certain m1a(methyl 1-androstenediol) wasn't around 6 years ago...

    I think your referring to a different compound M1,4AD which is supposedly a prohormone to dbol, not M1T.

    both are great prohormones with a fair amount of activity before even converting to their monster big brothers but are def different.
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    Day 4 and the sides are definitely kicking it, and so is the strength.

    Lifted back today

    DL
    135x15
    225x10
    275x8
    315x3
    275x5

    Lat Pulldown
    140x10
    160x10
    180x8

    Cabered Lat Pulldown
    170x10
    190x8
    210x5
    230x3
    210x5

    Closegrip Row
    110x15
    130x15
    150x10
    170x5 (PR - not that serious, but happy to hit it easily)

    Finished up with some 21 barbell curls (bottom to 90 degrees x7, 90 degrees to full curl x7, full range curl x7)
    Bar x 21
    65 x 21
    75 x 21

    Dips
    Bodyweight x15 x3sets

    Bought my gallon jug of water tonight. Definitely need to step up the water intake as BP seems like it's going to be an issue based off of these headaches.

    Dose is still at 20mg am, 20mg 1 hour before workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough

    I'm fairly certain m1a(methyl 1-androstenediol) wasn't around 6 years ago...

    I think your referring to a different compound M1,4AD which is supposedly a prohormone to dbol, not M1T.

    both are great prohormones with a fair amount of activity before even converting to their monster big brothers but are def different.
    It was. Og was from LG
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    It was. Og was from LG
    And then after that EST had it I think it was called Methyl XT

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    aha, i do remember that. I stand corrected.

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