Methyl-1,4-androstenediol

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    Methyl-1,4-androstenediol


    Apparently this is a dbol precursor.
    Anyone well versed in their steroid nomenclatures and can add some insight on this?
    I may grab some soon.
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    Supposedly has ~15% conversion rate to dbol and some intrinsic activity. It's somehow survived 2 bans.
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    Ah...its M1,4ADD. I guess I should have researched.
    Regardless I have never ran it and may use it as a kicker to my next cycle if its worth anything.
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    I love the stuff. Glad it's still around.
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    its anabolic on its own as well. awsome stuff imho
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    Everything I've ever read on m14ad leads me to believe it is garbage. From what I understand, the conversion to dbol in vivo is very small. I'd definitely like to hear from anybody who has run it solo to hear their opinion on the compound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG
    Everything I've ever read on m14ad leads me to believe it is garbage. From what I understand, the conversion to dbol in vivo is very small. I'd definitely like to hear from anybody who has run it solo to hear their opinion on the compound.
    it's actually a decent compound on its own but you have to be able to find a decent supplier... i don't know that there are any more out there that i could personally recommend...doesn't mean they aren't legit though.
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    I ran it +300mgs (I don't suggest this) and didn't see much and I typically respond well to everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    I ran it +300mgs (I don't suggest this) and didn't see much and I typically respond well to everything
    You ran a methylated steroid at 300mg each day,really? For how long?
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    Bro I have a bro that wants to run SD at 50mg ED...some people just run everything high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG
    Bro I have a bro that wants to run SD at 50mg ED...some people just run everything high.
    Yes some people are idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    You ran a methylated steroid at 300mg each day,really? For how long?
    There's no way it was a legit version...


    I know Ryan well enough to know he could run legit m14ad at half dose and get insane results. I think the guy has more ar receptors then anyone else I've ever met.
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    I ran it at 75mg had nice mild gains. Strength wasn't impressive. But good pumps and recovery. If I ran it again I would start at 100mg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    Bro I have a bro that wants to run SD at 50mg ED...some people just run everything high.
    I've heard of people running SD at up to 60mg, I personally just wouldn't want to put my liver through that though lol. Would have to double up on the TUDCA dose or somethin'.
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    I wouldn't see a reason to go over 30mg of Sd. But people are diff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    I wouldn't see a reason to go over 30mg of Sd. But people are diff.
    There is zero reason to go over 30mg sd... unless you have bunk or underdosed sd... not very likely though cause it was so common for so long...

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    True dat
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    You ran a methylated steroid at 300mg each day,really? For how long?
    yes...can't remember the length

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    There's no way it was a legit version...


    I know Ryan well enough to know he could run legit m14ad at half dose and get insane results. I think the guy has more ar receptors then anyone else I've ever met.
    Well I don't want to speculate on the legitimacy given it was a beta run by a very respected and current company. I was getting blood work every 7 days to test parameters, we were simply speculating off the 15% conversion rate...I had no gains and no sides...which is certainly not expected especially for me. Take it for what its worth (not much)

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    did you report it to the company?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    did you report it to the company?
    They knew

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    nope, guess not.
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