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    Do.u have anything to run to help combat tiredness and spots??



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    Originally Posted by klint
    Do.u have anything to run to help combat tiredness and spots??
    I have dhea and vitamin b complex but neither are doing much to help, I don't know if I can eat anymore carbs lol and I picked up some benzoyl peroxide for the acne.

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    Im 203lbs at 5"10 in am nude after a piss. I dont post my stats

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    Originally Posted by evodrag View Post
    Im 203lbs at 5"10 in am nude after a piss. I dont post my stats
    Ok. No offense, I've just seen some really dumb people.."I'm 145 pounds, can I take superdrol?"

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    Hahaha. It was kindof a joke. Im running a bulking tread right now. Goal was to hit 225 but i dont think I will.

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    Need your guys help!! I'm getting really bad acne almost bad enough that I'm debating stopping use. I tried using benzoyl peroxide and it's not working at all I have it on my face and shoulders.

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    I would really appreciate any advice, anyone at all?

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    You try proactive? Never had acne issues but if you can tolerate it for a bit it should go away after cycle

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    I don't think proactive will work it's pretty bad it's not acne you can squeeze the **** out of either its filled with blood it sucks.

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    Originally Posted by TLW View Post
    I don't think proactive will work it's pretty bad it's not acne you can squeeze the **** out of either its filled with blood it sucks.
    Hmm maybe see your physician and get a prescription?

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    I have some prescription stuff I just don't know if I should take that on cycle. I guess I'll just wear a mask until my cycle is over lol

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    Originally Posted by TLW View Post
    I have some prescription stuff I just don't know if I should take that on cycle. I guess I'll just wear a mask until my cycle is over lol
    Yea for real lol of its not painful and completely hideous I'd say just tough it out..maybe some more expierenced guys will chime in

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    Accutane at 20mg daily for 5-6 months will destroy acne but you need to stay away from partying.
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    Originally Posted by heavyiron
    Accutane at 20mg daily for 5-6 months will destroy acne but you need to stay away from partying.
    I have accutane but I didn't think I could use that on cycle? I don't party anyways haha

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    Originally Posted by TLW View Post
    I have accutane but I didn't think I could use that on cycle? I don't party anyways haha
    Low dose Accutane is fine. The initial prescribing dosage was too high. They then performed low dose trials and proved that Accutane was effective and safer than the high dose studies. 20mg daily is proven. Just stay well hydrated and stay away from acetominophen and alcohol.

    Low-dose isotretinoin in the treatment of acne vulgaris.

    Amichai B, Shemer A, Grunwald MH.
    Huzot Clinic of Clalit Health Services, Ashkelon, Israel.

    BACKGROUND: The efficacy of isotretinoin at 0.5 to 1.0 mg/kg per day in the treatment of acne is well established and considered safe, although it is sometimes not easily tolerated because of its cutaneous side effects. OBJECTIVE: The purpose of this study was to determine the efficacy of low-dose isotretinoin in the treatment of acne. METHODS: In this prospective, noncomparative, open-label study, 638 patients, both male and female, with moderate acne were enrolled and treated with isotretinoin at 20 mg/d (approximately 0.3-0.4 mg/kg per day) for 6 months. The patients were divided into two age groups: 12 to 20 and 21 to 35 years old. Patients were evaluated at 2-month intervals by means of clinical and laboratory examinations. A 4-year follow-up was also carried out. RESULTS: At the end of the treatment phase, good results were observed in 94.8% of the patients aged 12 to 20 years, and in 92.6% of the patients aged 21 to 35 years. Failure of the treatment occurred in 5.2% and 7.4% of the two groups, respectively. Twenty-one patients dropped out of the study because of lack of compliance, and another patient discontinued participation because of a laboratory side effect. During the 4-year follow-up period, relapses of the acne occurred in 3.9% of the patients aged 12 to 20 years and in 5.9% of the patients aged 21 to 35 years. Elevated serum lipid levels (up to 20% higher than the upper limit of normal value) were found in 4.2% of the patients and abnormal (<twice the upper limit of normal values) liver tests were observed in 4.8%. LIMITATIONS: This was a noncomparative, open-label study. CONCLUSION: Six months of treatment with low-dose isotretinoin (20 mg/d) was found to be effective in the treatment of moderate acne, with a low incidence of severe side effects and at a lower cost than higher doses.

    PMID: 16546586 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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    Originally Posted by heavyiron

    Low dose Accutane is fine. The initial prescribing dosage was too high. They then performed low dose trials and proved that Accutane was effective and safer than the high dose studies. 20mg daily is proven. Just stay well hydrated and stay away from acetominophen and alcohol.

    Low-dose isotretinoin in the treatment of acne vulgaris.

    Amichai B, Shemer A, Grunwald MH.
    Huzot Clinic of Clalit Health Services, Ashkelon, Israel.

    BACKGROUND: The efficacy of isotretinoin at 0.5 to 1.0 mg/kg per day in the treatment of acne is well established and considered safe, although it is sometimes not easily tolerated because of its cutaneous side effects. OBJECTIVE: The purpose of this study was to determine the efficacy of low-dose isotretinoin in the treatment of acne. METHODS: In this prospective, noncomparative, open-label study, 638 patients, both male and female, with moderate acne were enrolled and treated with isotretinoin at 20 mg/d (approximately 0.3-0.4 mg/kg per day) for 6 months. The patients were divided into two age groups: 12 to 20 and 21 to 35 years old. Patients were evaluated at 2-month intervals by means of clinical and laboratory examinations. A 4-year follow-up was also carried out. RESULTS: At the end of the treatment phase, good results were observed in 94.8% of the patients aged 12 to 20 years, and in 92.6% of the patients aged 21 to 35 years. Failure of the treatment occurred in 5.2% and 7.4% of the two groups, respectively. Twenty-one patients dropped out of the study because of lack of compliance, and another patient discontinued participation because of a laboratory side effect. During the 4-year follow-up period, relapses of the acne occurred in 3.9% of the patients aged 12 to 20 years and in 5.9% of the patients aged 21 to 35 years. Elevated serum lipid levels (up to 20% higher than the upper limit of normal value) were found in 4.2% of the patients and abnormal (<twice the upper limit of normal values) liver tests were observed in 4.8%. LIMITATIONS: This was a noncomparative, open-label study. CONCLUSION: Six months of treatment with low-dose isotretinoin (20 mg/d) was found to be effective in the treatment of moderate acne, with a low incidence of severe side effects and at a lower cost than higher doses.

    PMID: 16546586 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
    Thank you! Ill start tomorrow

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    When do you dose? 2 caps morning or 1 morning/1 afternoon, or 1 morning 1 pre-workout?

    4200kcals is a **** ton. Best of luck.

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    Originally Posted by F355
    When do you dose? 2 caps morning or 1 morning/1 afternoon, or 1 morning 1 pre-workout?

    4200kcals is a **** ton. Best of luck.
    1 at 8:30 during work then when I get off at 4:30 then I hit the gym at 5:30.

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    How is it going?

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    Hey guys weight gain has stalled at plus 7lbs for the last few days, tomorrow is the beginning of week three.

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