Must-have ingredients for test cycle support?

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    Must-have ingredients for test cycle support?


    So what would be must have for a 250 mg/week test e cycle?

    I have
    hawthorn berry
    NAC
    omega3
    milk thistle

    Would that be enough?


    Also,what would you recommend for pct for this cycle?


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    first cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    I agree
    Umm...care to elaborate?
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    Look it up man. There is a whole thread that tells ya what you need for pct and secondly 250mg a week? Take 500mg/w and make sure you have an ai for on cycle and pct before you start
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn
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    Yes, you need enough test for a test cycle, other wise, it's just hrt
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    Why wouldn`t 250 a week be ok?

    I`ve heard that it is great for first cycle,see how you react and all that.

    HRT is 250 every 3 weeks.
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    btw what about the cycle support?

    That`s what I`m planning on ordering now,so that was my main question.

    Thanks guys!
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    Who or what led you to believe that you need anything aside from a testosterone and a SERM for post cycle?
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    Honestly if you have the money, you may want to invest in a cycle support.

    I know unless I encountered bad sides I won't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Why wouldn`t 250 a week be ok?

    I`ve heard that it is great for first cycle,see how you react and all that.

    HRT is 250 every 3 weeks.
    Wrong!!
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    OK.

    You can run 250mg and see very mild and light results if your diet and training are spot on and you run it long enough.

    You don't NEED 500mg regardless of what anyone here tells you.

    You do not NEED an AI on cycle or post cycle regardless of what anyone here tells you.

    You do not NEED any cycle support products regardless of what anyone here tells you.

    You NEED a SERM for post cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    Who or what led you to believe that you need anything aside from a testosterone and a SERM for post cycle?
    I don`t know man.

    So nothing on cycle?

    At least for liver?


    So SERM for pct?Clomid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    Honestly if you have the money, you may want to invest in a cycle support.

    I know unless I encountered bad sides I won't
    I already have hawthorn berry,omega 3,milk thistle.

    Don`t know if I should get NAC(since it`s not oral cycle).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    I don`t know man.

    So nothing on cycle?

    At least for liver?


    So SERM for pct?Clomid?


    I already have hawthorn berry,omega 3,milk thistle.

    Don`t know if I should get NAC(since it`s not oral cycle).
    You've covered blood-pressure and cholesterol. Unless you have Serious problems with these you may consider not cycling all together or improving support supps.

    No need for any liver support on cycle IMO but it doesn't hurt
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    Firstly I suggest you get bloods before and after to determine whether you pct dosage is suitable for you at bringing back your test.

    Clomid @ (100) 50/50/50/50 (Day 1) I know people like to over do it though, but bloods should tell you if you've recovered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    Firstly I suggest you get bloods before and after to determine whether you pct dosage is suitable for you at bringing back your test.

    Clomid @ (100) 50/50/50/50 (Day 1) I know people like to over do it though, but bloods should tell you if you've recovered.
    Well my test is at 280 now,pre-cycle.

    Naturally low,never done gear.
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    Testosterone 250mg 16 weeks+
    One week past last injection (its only 250mg of test) Nolva 20/20/20/20 or Clomid 50/50/50/50
    Done! Nothing else, nada, nothing!
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    David care to tell us why he shouldn't run supps to support his cholesterol, blood pressure or liver?

    And wouldn't it be handy to have an AI on hand just in case he starts developing gyno or other estrogen related sides?
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    Only time u need a liver support is if ur taking an oral. No need for a pinning cycle. Sounds like u might want to do more reasearch before u do this cycle. A lot of these questions are things u should def have known way before a cycle is considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn
    OK.

    You can run 250mg and see very mild and light results if your diet and training are spot on and you run it long enough.

    You don't NEED 500mg regardless of what anyone here tells you.

    You do not NEED an AI on cycle or post cycle regardless of what anyone here tells you.

    You do not NEED any cycle support products regardless of what anyone here tells you.

    You NEED a SERM for post cycle.
    Well, you don't NEED anything for post cycle either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironwiz View Post
    David care to tell us why he shouldn't run supps to support his cholesterol, blood pressure or liver?

    And wouldn't it be handy to have an AI on hand just in case he starts developing gyno or other estrogen related sides?
    Sure. 250mg of testosterone will bring his total test to about 1800-2000 which is not considerably highre than physiological range.

    It will have very little if any effect on his cholesterol in the run of a 12-16 weeks cycle. It will have little if any effect on his blood pressure in a 12-16 weeks cycle. It is not hepatotoxic so liver is no issue.

    At 250mg his level of estrogen should not be exceedingly high. Experience has shown me that at 200mg it was about 70 on a scale of 7.6-42.6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Well, you don't NEED anything for post cycle either.
    Correct! Case closed
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn
    OK.

    You can run 250mg and see very mild and light results if your diet and training are spot on and you run it long enough.

    You don't NEED 500mg regardless of what anyone here tells you.

    You do not NEED an AI on cycle or post cycle regardless of what anyone here tells you.

    You do not NEED any cycle support products regardless of what anyone here tells you.

    You NEED a SERM for post cycle.
    Agreed! I am a firm believer in less is more. It's nice to be safe but the less drugs you need to put in your body the better. Some will say you NEED hcg and need and AI but that's not true. Some may need and some may not. Everybody reacts differently to steroids so what works for me may not work for you. Start off as basic as possible. Have ancillaries on hand just in case but listen to your body. What you read on here is cookie cutter what seems to be most common practice advice. Use it as a guide. You don't need to take it all literally.
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn
    Sure. 250mg of testosterone will bring his total test to about 1800-2000 which is not considerably highre than physiological range.

    It will have very little if any effect on his cholesterol in the run of a 12-16 weeks cycle. It will have little if any effect on his blood pressure in a 12-16 weeks cycle. It is not hepatotoxic so liver is no issue.

    At 250mg his level of estrogen should not be exceedingly high. Experience has shown me that at 200mg it was about 70 on a scale of 7.6-42.6.
    Thanks for the reply.

    What about if he was running 600-800mg. Then an AI and maybe some blood pressure supps would be handy?



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