Need advise. Second cycle after Havoc !

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    Cool Need advise. Second cycle after Havoc !


    Hello guys !

    This is my first post.

    So, i am 27, 6'3 , 190 pounds.

    Now I am at the end of my PCT, so start planning second cycle.
    First cycle was Havoc - 5 weeks 20/30/30/40/30-40.

    I use fish oil, AI cycle support, multivitamins + joint support as basics.
    and some other sport nutrition.

    For PCT I use.
    DAA-3/3/3/3
    Tamoxifen citrate-40/40/20/20
    AI post Cycle Support
    Erase 3/3/3/2
    creatine.

    I gained about 18 pounds, but remained around 8.
    But i am very lean right now.

    My diet is about 2700-3000 calories.

    So many people do compliment me, of course I decided to start second cycle )))
    in the end of the cycle i can not believe it is me in the mirror.

    Advise on what to see, again Havoc or something else, or Havoc + ...... ????

    In my hands 1 pack Havoc and 1 pack Trenazone.
    But I read reviews trenazone, many complain about the potency and libido.
    It is bad for me, because my girlfriend is 17 years old. And she wants to have sex every day ))))

    I want to start second cycle after 4-5 weeks the end of PCT, to be ready before New Year holliday.
    it is ok?

    I am not limited to money.
    Please help my with choice what to buy.
    Can i add AnaBeta Elite to my cycle? People praise it.

    P.S. Right now i have acne at my back, what to do with this ?
    I have oily skin also.

    Sorry for long post ))) Regards

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    Your 27 and your gf is 17, probably best to end that before prison does it for you
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    Like they say "17 will get you 20".
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    Sick is all u have to say, u should be ashamed of yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch5 View Post
    Your 27 and your gf is 17, probably best to end that before prison does it for you
    end what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikle

    end what?
    Your quote un quote relationship
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    It's weird but in new york its legal if a girl is 17. if thats where he lives
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    Don't rush cycles. And I'm not even going to comment on the underage girl...
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    hey guys, forget about my girlfriend

    I do not know what the laws in the U.S., but we have a legal sex age of 16(Russia) with the consent of,
    More I am familiar with her parents....
    but forget it guys

    lets jump to my cycle........

    need some advise......
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    If you liked havoc, run it again. Don rush cycles though. Take a few months off in between.
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    Actually, here in the States you can bang a 17 year old in a lot of states as long as you have the consent of the parents. In some states you can go as low as 15 or 16 with parental consent, and in some states the age of consent is under 18 even without parental consent.

    But that's neither here nor there. You'll want to wait longer before cycling again boss. Time off should be equal to time on plus PCT as a general rule, so 9 weeks for you. That would be the minimum. Lots of natural supps you can use in the meantime. Head over to the supplement forum and check out what those guys are saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post
    Actually, here in the States you can bang a 17 year old in a lot of states as long as you have the consent of the parents. In some states you can go as low as 15 or 16 with parental consent, and in some states the age of consent is under 18 even without parental consent.

    But that's neither here nor there. You'll want to wait longer before cycling again boss. Time off should be equal to time on plus PCT as a general rule, so 9 weeks for you. That would be the minimum. Lots of natural supps you can use in the meantime. Head over to the supplement forum and check out what those guys are saying.
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    Everyone get off your high horse. I could post pictures of "underage" girls that all of you would bang
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    well im fine riding a horse rather than riding a child. when she moans does she say LIKE alot LIKE oh my god LIKE wow. wait 2 months from the end of pct to start any cycle. you have a great search tool called THE SEARCH BAR on the top right and if you search "2nd cycle" you will find something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exian View Post
    If you liked havoc, run it again. Don rush cycles though. Take a few months off in between.
    Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post
    Actually, here in the States you can bang a 17 year old in a lot of states as long as you have the consent of the parents. In some states you can go as low as 15 or 16 with parental consent, and in some states the age of consent is under 18 even without parental consent.

    But that's neither here nor there. You'll want to wait longer before cycling again boss. Time off should be equal to time on plus PCT as a general rule, so 9 weeks for you. That would be the minimum. Lots of natural supps you can use in the meantime. Head over to the supplement forum and check out what those guys are saying.
    Thanks a lot guys, so it be better to start after New Year vacations ( 12days in Russia)

    So what about the choice. If havoc works good for me. It wiil be better to cycle it again? solo or something else ?

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikle

    Thanks a lot guys, so it be better to start after New Year vacations ( 12days in Russia)

    So what about the choice. If havoc works good for me. It wiil be better to cycle it again? solo or something else ?

    Regards
    You can try it again and may do just as well, though the potential is there to not see quite as good of a response the second time around. A better bet would probably be to stack it with something. Havoc with Trenazone seems to be real popular. Or just do another solo run with something other than Havoc.
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    If Havoc worked for you, why not try it again? You may want to up the dose slightly this time around. but yes definitely wait 9 weeks after you finish your current pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    If Havoc worked for you, why not try it again? You may want to up the dose slightly this time around. but yes definitely wait 9 weeks after you finish your current pct.
    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post
    You can try it again and may do just as well, though the potential is there to not see quite as good of a response the second time around. A better bet would probably be to stack it with something. Havoc with Trenazone seems to be real popular. Or just do another solo run with something other than Havoc.
    Thanks,

    i have Trenazone on my hands, but I read some review at supplementreview.com, where guys complain on libido on cycle of tren.
    what you think about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post
    ALots of natural supps you can use in the meantime. Head over to the supplement forum and check out what those guys are saying.
    what you recommended?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikle View Post
    thanks



    Thanks,

    i have Trenazone on my hands, but I read some review at supplementreview.com, where guys complain on libido on cycle of tren.
    what you think about that?
    Most guys will have problems with libido without using testosterone on the cycle. But you can help negate the libido effects with stanodrol.
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