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    First PH to use??


    Hi guys, now i appreciate you have all probably answered these questions tons of times but having done searches and attempted research i find alot of conflicting information so i decided to start my own thread to ask exactly what i would like answered. Iv been lifting for several years now and have only now decided to give myself a "boost" I have decided to start using a Pro hormone and was wondering what would be the best one to use as a first time user? I have read good things about Super DMZ but obviously not as a first cycle. Im not going to rush and buy a PH i will do plently of research first.
    Any help would be great guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch
    Hi guys, now i appreciate you have all probably answered these questions tons of times but having done searches and attempted research i find alot of conflicting information so i decided to start my own thread to ask exactly what i would like answered. Iv been lifting for several years now and have only now decided to give myself a "boost" I have decided to start using a Pro hormone and was wondering what would be the best one to use as a first time user? I have read good things about Super DMZ but obviously not as a first cycle. Im not going to rush and buy a PH i will do plently of research first.
    Any help would be great guys.
    Age/weight/maxes/lifting experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Age/weight/maxes/lifting experience?
    ah sorry. im 22, 200 lbs, Bench 150 kg, been lifting for around 6 years now. I would like to add mass and also firm up.
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    google "hdrol bible"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper View Post
    google "hdrol bible"
    ok mate so i should be using hdrol first?
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    hdrol or epi seem to be the most popular. I used hdrol for my first 2 cycles. had solid results.
    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch View Post
    ok mate so i should be using hdrol first?
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    Hdrol or Epistane.

    Superdrol and Tren/Stano.

    -Hdrol: 50/75/75/75/75/75
    -Epistane: 30/40/40/40/40/40

    Superdrol: 10/20/20
    Stano: 0/0/800/1000/1000/1000/1000
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    Hdrol or Epistane.

    Superdrol and Tren/Stano.

    -Hdrol: 50/75/75/75/75/75
    -Epistane: 30/40/40/40/40/40

    Superdrol: 10/20/20
    Stano: 0/0/800/1000/1000/1000/1000
    Thanks for the help mate, im going to use a cycle of hdrol and nova as a pct.

    Are you guys allowed to post links to good quality products of each? thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch View Post
    Thanks for the help mate, im going to use a cycle of hdrol and nova as a pct.

    Are you guys allowed to post links to good quality products of each? thanks
    Are you from the UK ? (assuming from kgs)
    Powermyself are the cheapest imo:

    Stano: http://www.powermyself.com/type/pro-...apsules-2.html
    Hdrol: http://www.powermyself.com/brands/dr...-100-caps.html
    Epistane: http://www.powermyself.com/brands/dr...-100-caps.html

    Can't post SD link (illegal in US) but they have it too
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    Thank you mate, you have been incredibly helpful. One more thing, where is best to get Nolva? thanks (repped)
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    Take nolva the next day after your last week of epi/hella

    Good dosage is 20/20/10/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch View Post
    Thank you mate, you have been incredibly helpful. One more thing, where is best to get Nolva? thanks (repped)
    Can't tell you that bro, check the sponsors though it would be a good Solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    Can't tell you that bro, check the sponsors though it would be a good Solution.
    Haha thanks mate i know the place to look now but does it come in a different name or something cant find it anywhre there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch View Post
    Haha thanks mate i know the place to look now but does it come in a different name or something cant find it anywhre there.
    Tamoxifen Citrate (Nolva)
    Clomiphene Citrate (Clomid)
    Toremifene Citrate (Torem)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    Tamoxifen Citrate (Nolva)
    Clomiphene Citrate (Clomid)
    Toremifene Citrate (Torem)
    Thankyou mate, sorry for all the questions but as you will know its a big step to take and i just want to get it right and not abuse the PH's. the Tamoxifen Citrate says its not for human consumption, is this the stuff you mean? So all i need is Hdrol and Nolva or do i need cycle support? Thnaks
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch View Post
    Thankyou mate, sorry for all the questions but as you will know its a big step to take and i just want to get it right and not abuse the PH's. the Tamoxifen Citrate says its not for human consumption, is this the stuff you mean? So all i need is Hdrol and Nolva or do i need cycle support? Thnaks
    Only way to get serms with out prescription/ ugl source is research companies. They sell "for"/with the intention to serve research purposes. Its still top shizz. Purity is still fit for man


    Cycle support is recommended with hdrol being a methylated steroid (harsher on the liver)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    Only way to get serms with out prescription/ ugl source is research companies. They sell "for"/with the intention to serve research purposes. Its still top shizz. Purity is still fit for man


    Cycle support is recommended with hdrol being a methylated steroid (harsher on the liver)
    Thanks man, you have been very helpful. Is 30 ml enough for a month? so all i require is teh nolva, the hdrol and a cycle support?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch View Post
    Thanks man, you have been very helpful. Is 30 ml enough for a month? so all i require is teh nolva, the hdrol and a cycle support?
    Yeah, dose (2ml) 1ml/1ml/1ml/1ml which is 20mg every day 4 weeks

    And yea.
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    Thanks mate. Would just milk thistle and orange triad be ok as cycle support ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch View Post
    Thanks mate. Would just milk thistle and orange triad be ok as cycle support ?
    Yeah
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    I wont have trouble getting Halo extreme into the UK will i?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch
    I wont have trouble getting Halo extreme into the UK will i?
    you can buy halo in the uk
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch
    Hi guys, now i appreciate you have all probably answered these questions tons of times but having done searches and attempted research i find alot of conflicting information so i decided to start my own thread to ask exactly what i would like answered. Iv been lifting for several years now and have only now decided to give myself a "boost" I have decided to start using a Pro hormone and was wondering what would be the best one to use as a first time user? I have read good things about Super DMZ but obviously not as a first cycle. Im not going to rush and buy a PH i will do plently of research first.
    Any help would be great guys.
    Well I'm on my first PH cycle ATM and it's probably as mild as you can get. I am taking M1D black @ 3 caps a day for 8 weeks. First 4 weeks I'm using Erase 3X a day and last 4 weeks I'm switching over to reversitol V2 because weeks 5-8 I'm adding in topical 11 ketotestosterone. Mind you this is for a lean bulk. First four weeks is purely a lean bulk followed by a lean bulk/ recomp the last 4 weeks and then continuing a straight lean bulk in PCT. My PCT consists of Ur spray twice a day plus Ur tabs, compound 20, 7 spray, form x and ostarine 20 mg. Post PCT I'm using bridge, compound 20, Sarms S4 and GW and ill continue the 7 spray and Ursolic acid supplements
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    you can buy halo in the uk
    where mate? mines coming from the US
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch

    where mate? mines coming from the US
    read.page 1 of this thread. stroke ur ego named a good one.
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    It was a US site though wasnt it mate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpepespunch View Post
    It was a US site though wasnt it mate?
    uk bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego

    uk bro
    my favorite uk site to be exact....great price/great service
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    my favorite uk site to be exact....great price/great service
    ah yeah cheers, i went with Halo extreme after reading up on both
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