OstaRx for PCT
- 09-30-2012, 02:21 AM
OstaRx for PCT
I am planning on starting a 7 week cycle of 5-Alpha Test (3 tabs per day as bottle states) and Trenazone 1/1.5/1.5/2/2/2.5/2.5 in a few days. For PCT I've got Erase Pro, Reduce XT, DAA, and Clomid. I'm also going to be continuing my Cycle Support through pct. However I've been reading up on OstaRx and decided to give it a try and add it to my PCT. Do you guys think this would be a good idea or unnecessary? From what I've read it seems like a great way to keep and maybe even add gains during PCT. If anyone can help I'd appreciate some info on how to integrate this in my PCT. From what I've read it gets positive reviews in a PCT but I haven't seen any threads on when to start/stop using the OstaRX (I'm assuming day one of pct and just run the one bottle) but I'd love some insight or any constructive criticism on my cyle. Thanks in advance.
- 09-30-2012, 03:13 AM
- 09-30-2012, 04:46 AM
I ran osta my last pct, tapered down over 8 weeks 25mg/20/20/20/15/15/10/10. Bloods came back great. Not saying that's everyone's experience that was just mineChristopher
09-30-2012, 12:30 PM
09-30-2012, 12:57 PM
09-30-2012, 01:03 PM
Yea I was kinda bummed when I saw the price but I'd already worked myself up and gotten really excited to use it in my pct haha. So I just whipped out my card and tried not to think about it lol.
09-30-2012, 01:06 PM
09-30-2012, 04:34 PM
I used ostarine in my last PCT, and I loved it. Actually, I'm still on it lol. IMO 10mg daily is the perfect spot to have it - from what I've heard, anything over that (20-25mg) seems to have increased risks without much increased benefit (the primary risk you have to worry about with osta is suppression in PCT - make sure to run it low while you're still recovering).
09-30-2012, 07:52 PM
09-30-2012, 08:17 PM
Saw this on another forum (my apologies if this is bad forum etiquette or something) but I was curious what anyone over here had to say about this guys statements.
This stuff cracks me up. So now the argument is not that ostarine is not suppressive during PCT, just that it's not 'too' suppressive, and SERMS will overwhelm the effect. Well ****, if that's the new logic, why not just run a low dose of a PH throughout PCT?
Since we know Ostarine is supressive (from the bloodwork all over the net, and the original phase I trials), and clearly so at 25 mg, making suggestions like 'well, just start at 25, then taper down bro', as the 'article' (*cough* adcopy *cough) above does, is the same logic as saying 'well, just start epistane at 40mg a day, then taper down bro'.
Assuming everyone can see that the PH tapering plan is not a good one, get it through your heads, the ostarine plan is no different. The only people trying to tell you it is not suppressive are trying to sell it to you, or convince themselves that what they are doing is a good idea. Ostarine has it's place and its virtues - comparable to a mild PH cycle with reduced liver/lipid impact. That makes is useful in some specific situations (eg bridging into a PH cycle). Now that we've seen enough bloodwork to judge (see the long thread in PA's section), it has no more place in PCT than a low dose PH would.
I would recommend:
a) solo + a conservative PCT (eg clomid 25/12.5/12.5 + low dose AI)
b) stacked with one or more mild non-methylated PH for a liver friendly cycle with low sides (eg osta 12.5mg + 600mg stano + 1ml mg trenazone) - this could be useful for those who are prone to sides, for example someone who has mild hypertension to start with
c) use it to bridge into a 'standard' PH cycle -to allow for a longer cycle that would be on the whole, less damaging (aside from shutdown) than an equal length PH cycle. That is to say, I would expect 4 weeks of ostarine bridged into 6 weeks of mechabol or 4 weeks of superdrol (with one week overlap) to be easier on the liver and lipids than 9 weeks of mechabol or 7 weeks of superdrol alone. This is the use that most interests me.
Plenty of interesting ways to use this, but since something to use during PCT is the 'magic bullet' of this industry, the people making it are gonna keep trying to shoehorn it into that application, regardless of evidence. Don't get me wrong, I would love for it (or something else) to come along that will work in PCT, but I don't see any reason to believe this is it.
FWIW, my current PCT protocol after a very suppressive cycle is clomid+nolva+daa on the hormonal side, creatine + beta alanine + citrulline malate + betaine + ursolic acid + licogenix + a few other misc things. So I'm not against pulling out all the stops to hold onto gains.
09-30-2012, 08:20 PM
09-30-2012, 08:45 PM
That might be kind of a waste, I bet you'll get awesome results without the Osta. I have a theory that using a SARM on cycle would make the androgens compete for receptors.Originally Posted by JD261985
09-30-2012, 09:30 PM
Yes. It's highly advisable to run a SUPPRESSIVE supplement during PCT.
Might as well run a low dosed PH. -_-'
No SERM, No Cycle, No Problem.
09-30-2012, 09:41 PM
Who said its suppressive? There is no suppression from real ostarine. Those experiencing shutdown had been using RC grade. Spiked stuff.Originally Posted by akaVeritaS
09-30-2012, 10:01 PM
Yo flex thanks so much for that advice man. I'm still getting the osta but should I just take it for a solo run or what? Maybe ill just throw it in PCT. Dying to try this stuff out.
09-30-2012, 10:04 PM
Run your cycle and then use the osta in pct IMO.Originally Posted by JD261985
Also if you can find "Ostanish" online it's cheaper than Osta RX.
09-30-2012, 11:56 PM
Oh ok yea hopefully orbit gets it back in stock. Every time its in stock its gone the next day. Saw it on the elite muscles site but its 80 bucks now...plus shipping like 90 bucks
10-01-2012, 08:01 AM
10-01-2012, 08:02 AM
10-01-2012, 12:09 PM
10-01-2012, 05:23 PM
It was really wierd I wrote an email to elite muscles asking them what happened to the 49.99 price tag because it was 80 dollars when I looked. They wrote back and said "we fixed it for you" and now the price is back down and I ordered my ostanish. Lol good ****
10-01-2012, 05:27 PM
Is ostanish legit? I mean a 3 month supply for $50 is insane! Anyone had this tested ?Originally Posted by JD261985
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10-01-2012, 07:03 PM
10-01-2012, 07:07 PM
I'll let ya know come mid November broski.Originally Posted by vidapreta
I'm not sure but I'm assuming their raw powder and capped "Ostanish" is sourced the same.
10-01-2012, 07:15 PM
10-01-2012, 10:22 PM
All I know is that ostanish sells out in about 2-3 days on orbit so people are definitely digging it.
10-02-2012, 10:17 AM
Well I'm starting my cycle tomorrow and OstaRx is in the mail so I'll probably just go ahead and give it a shot at low dose in PCT and see what happens haha.
10-02-2012, 10:41 AM
I've been using there PH's for quite a while now, great stuff at crazy cheap prices. Their a really small operation that's had a few hiccups along the way, but Chris makes good on his word. It just might take a little bit. They've had some problems with the coding on their website lately, but they've got it worked out now. The only thing that sucks now is that demand has been so high for his ph powders, pills, and liquids that he can't afford to sell his raw powders anymore. However, everything will be going into liquid form, which is still a low price when you look at the amount of actual product in the bottle.
10-02-2012, 11:10 AM
10-02-2012, 11:23 AM
10-02-2012, 12:23 PM
So without naming a certain site would you say a research chem site would be g2g for ostarine? Thinking if running it during my pct at 10mg ed. At 26$ seems like a no brainer!Originally Posted by supermanjow
10-02-2012, 12:59 PM
10-02-2012, 04:47 PM
Hell yeah..I noticed the price increase and went to order somewhere else, only to find that they're out of stock. Good work broOriginally Posted by JD261985
10-02-2012, 04:57 PM
10-02-2012, 05:21 PM
10-02-2012, 09:22 PM
Hadn't planned on running an ai during pct. mixed reports on estro suppression during pct. most people suggest no ai. What are your reasons for running it during pct?Originally Posted by supermanjow
10-03-2012, 07:01 AM
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