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    Can anything match the greatness of SD?


    Hey all,

    I am nearing the end of my SD/Epi bridge, first off I must say this was my first time running Epi and I was thoroughly impressed, I almost matched the gains I made on SD once I bridged into Epi so kudos to you Mr. Epistane.

    Anyways....back on topic, after having some bloods done yesterday(I have 2 days left on cycle) my BP is good, my liver is good, lipids are decent(enough so the doc didn't mention them) I'm impressed with how well my body tolerated the cycle, I never once had any sign of any gyno issues either...I'm just going to really miss SD being so readily available and while I did stock up, I'm wondering if there are any other highly recommended PH's/AAS that do not aromatize like SD & Epi, that still yield decent gains...I have some in mind but I'd like you guy's opinion.

    Question 2: concerning my pct, I have Nolva on hand but I also have a bottle of Osta I'd like to run throughout PCT and on through my time off PH's. At what dose could I take the Osta on a daily basis while still allowing the Nolva & DAA to do it's job bringing the boys back to their natural state??

    thanks in advance pimps.

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    No. nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDking View Post
    No. nuff said.
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    Yes pretty much any steroid is far superior
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    Injects
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    Alpha-one, M1T and Dzine (imo)

    I think if someone runs anavar at 50~100mg range stacked with a water-retaining compound (whether it aromatases or not) would yield better results than SD with much less sides/health compromising issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelaRone
    Hey all,

    I am nearing the end of my SD/Epi bridge, first off I must say this was my first time running Epi and I was thoroughly impressed, I almost matched the gains I made on SD once I bridged into Epi so kudos to you Mr. Epistane.

    Anyways....back on topic, after having some bloods done yesterday(I have 2 days left on cycle) my BP is good, my liver is good, lipids are decent(enough so the doc didn't mention them) I'm impressed with how well my body tolerated the cycle, I never once had any sign of any gyno issues either...I'm just going to really miss SD being so readily available and while I did stock up, I'm wondering if there are any other highly recommended PH's/AAS that do not aromatize like SD & Epi, that still yield decent gains...I have some in mind but I'd like you guy's opinion.

    Question 2: concerning my pct, I have Nolva on hand but I also have a bottle of Osta I'd like to run throughout PCT and on through my time off PH's. At what dose could I take the Osta on a daily basis while still allowing the Nolva & DAA to do it's job bringing the boys back to their natural state??

    thanks in advance pimps.
    let your body recover homie... you might have not had any sides but your body still needs to recover... if you need an ai I recommend formestane transdermals or erase pro... other than that dont run another ph... time on = time off...
    dzine is pretty sweet stuff. more toxic, but good stuff... since you do well with superdrol, you should do well with dzine...
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    I wouldn't be using Ostarine during PCT... it is slightly suppressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    let your body recover homie... you might have not had any sides but your body still needs to recover... if you need an ai I recommend formestane transdermals or erase pro... other than that dont run another ph... time on = time off...
    dzine is pretty sweet stuff. more toxic, but good stuff... since you do well with superdrol, you should do well with dzine...
    I was waiting for somebody to validate my D-zine theory good good.....I'll grab some then, thanks. but yea I know i should go clean for a few months.....but....i probably wont lol especially considering the bloods i got done. foolish i am
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaVeritaS View Post
    I wouldn't be using Ostarine during PCT... it is slightly suppressive.
    I know this, that's why i was asking if anybody had any experience bringing the boys back while taking a mild dose of Osta....say...10 mgs.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleazy E View Post
    Yes pretty much any steroid is far superior
    i gotta say it.........SD IS a steroid lol and I strongly disagree...SD is superior to many AAS in terms of pure muscle building potential, maybe not as a package deal to some who encounter the harsh sides but SD isn't something to be written off. I think the fact that SD is already available from the big underground sources proves it's carved out it's place in the BB community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelaRone

    I was waiting for somebody to validate my D-zine theory good good.....I'll grab some then, thanks. but yea I know i should go clean for a few months.....but....i probably wont lol especially considering the bloods i got done. foolish i am
    foolish you are.... sigh*
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    I'm thinking of running a sd/epi bridge myself.. what did your cycle look like dosage wise?
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    I much prefer Dzine to SD. But that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelaRone View Post
    i gotta say it.........SD IS a steroid lol and I strongly disagree...SD is superior to many AAS in terms of pure muscle building potential, maybe not as a package deal to some who encounter the harsh sides but SD isn't something to be written off. I think the fact that SD is already available from the big underground sources proves it's carved out it's place in the BB community.
    Never said SD wasnt a steroid (its a 17aa version of masteron although it acts nothing like it) but you can keep you can keep all of it. Glad its working for you.
    Ill stick to test, deca and tren and other injectibles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightterror
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    Alpha-one, M1T and Dzine (imo)

    I think if someone runs anavar at 50~100mg range stacked with a water-retaining compound (whether it aromatases or not) would yield better results than SD with much less sides/health compromising issues
    Hmm I responded bad to anavar it really killed my BP
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelaRone View Post
    i gotta say it.........SD IS a steroid lol and I strongly disagree...SD is superior to many AAS in terms of pure muscle building potential, maybe not as a package deal to some who encounter the harsh sides but SD isn't something to be written off. I think the fact that SD is already available from the big underground sources proves it's carved out it's place in the BB community.
    Whoa, just caught this. SD superior to injectible AAS?

    Whatever you're smoking, put it down. Just because it's being produced after becoming Schedule III does not mean it is some amazing compound that the bodybuilding community agrees is godly.
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    Mg for mg methyl drostanolone is more potent than any non methylated steroid.

    But that is like comparing tomatoes and apple's.

    Their both red, and round, but that's about as far as the similarities go.

    Being able to mega dose less potent compounds is just a one up.

    You can't mega dose Sd without serious health risk/problems.
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    You might be able to inject 30mg of straight tren, and get decent results though.

    That'd be a interesting comparison.

    30mg of Sd for 4 weeks
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    30mg of trenbolone suspension for 4 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    You might be able to inject 30mg of straight tren, and get decent results though.

    That'd be a interesting comparison.

    30mg of Sd for 4 weeks
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    30mg of trenbolone suspension for 4 weeks.
    I dont think sd would even compare.... trens rediculously strong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    I dont think sd would even compare.... trens rediculously strong...
    Not only that but the quality of the gains and the look obtained with tren would blow SD out of the water.

    For those of you who do oral only cycles. there are better 17aas out there.

    There is a reason its not a staple in bodybuilders cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleazy E

    Not only that but the quality of the gains and the look obtained with tren would blow SD out of the water.

    For those of you who do oral only cycles. there are better 17aas out there.

    There is a reason its not a staple in bodybuilders cycle.
    agreed I would take tren the prohormone any day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleazy E View Post
    Never said SD wasnt a steroid (its a 17aa version of masteron although it acts nothing like it) but you can keep you can keep all of it. Glad its working for you.
    Ill stick to test, deca and tren and other injectibles.
    touche....lol. I do get a bit defensive, but i don't doubt that's a better stack you have going. I just don't have the privacy I need to run injectables or else I would. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Whoa, just caught this. SD superior to injectible AAS?

    Whatever you're smoking, put it down. Just because it's being produced after becoming Schedule III does not mean it is some amazing compound that the bodybuilding community agrees is godly.

    Well in a way...yes it does. The demand is there, so it's going to be continued being produced, but I'm not saying it's godly. Just that it has proven it's worth, I'm sure there's plenty of guys like me that respond well to SD, hence it's continuing presence.....BUT I'm not saying it's superior to ALL injectables in every way, or even superior to most....or a few...lol just that it's viable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infekted_87 View Post
    I'm thinking of running a sd/epi bridge myself.. what did your cycle look like dosage wise?

    SD- 20/20/20/20
    Epi-0/0/0/40/40/40/40

    pretty basic but effective, go for it bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleazy E View Post
    Not only that but the quality of the gains and the look obtained with tren would blow SD out of the water.

    For those of you who do oral only cycles. there are better 17aas out there.

    There is a reason its not a staple in bodybuilders cycle.
    Please share then if something else is out there making SD look like a toddlers toy I'd like to know...although while tren is amazing, i feel like it's overstated...just as SD is sometimes, to those who have only "heard" about it. like it's some mythical drug. Tren is great but it's also a gyno machine imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    I dont think sd would even compare.... trens rediculously strong...
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleazy E View Post
    Not only that but the quality of the gains and the look obtained with tren would blow SD out of the water.

    For those of you who do oral only cycles. there are better 17aas out there.

    There is a reason its not a staple in bodybuilders cycle.
    you guys seem to have limited knowledge on steroids. at least, from the post in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    I dont think sd would even compare.... trens rediculously strong...
    Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    agreed I would take tren the prohormone any day!
    wait, tren the prohormone? what are you talking about?

    trenadione? or dienedione? both really suck at 30mg.
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    im sure there are those out there who have done it, though it'd be hard to find someone using straight trenbolone suspension.

    looks like most buy base trenbolone powder and mix it up like they do with test suspension.

    37.5mg 2x per day is reported to be pretty rough, but strong stuff.

    i know in vida, tren is 500/500, but im not sure what it's compared to.

    same for superdrol, it's 400/20, but not sure what it's compered to.

    i dont want to look.

    but, tren suspension may have a leg up on superdrol, and then again, it may not d/t harshness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    im sure there are those out there who have done it, though it'd be hard to find someone using straight trenbolone suspension.

    looks like most buy base trenbolone powder and mix it up like they do with test suspension.

    37.5mg 2x per day is reported to be pretty rough, but strong stuff.

    i know in vida, tren is 500/500, but im not sure what it's compared to.

    same for superdrol, it's 400/20, but not sure what it's compered to.

    i dont want to look.

    but, tren suspension may have a leg up on superdrol, and then again, it may not d/t harshness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    agreed I would take tren the prohormone any day!
    Quote Originally Posted by DelaRone View Post
    Please share then if something else is out there making SD look like a toddlers toy I'd like to know...although while tren is amazing, i feel like it's overstated...just as SD is sometimes, to those who have only "heard" about it. like it's some mythical drug. Tren is great but it's also a gyno machine imo.
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    you guys seem to have limited knowledge on steroids. at least, from the post in this thread.
    Just to clarify to all of you... I DO NOT MESS WITH PRO-HORMONES!! I always stick to only AAS.
    All the comaprisons I made were between SD and injectible anabolic steroids. I guess I should have clarified that since this is the pro-hormone section.

    Jbryand if you think that SD is anywhere near as strong or effective as injectable trenbolone then I would have to argue that your statement I quoted above is coming back to bite you in a@@ bro.


    P.S. Trenbolone base (and once again Im not refering to prohormones) is readily available if you do some research and get the right hookup.

    Poeple overhype the harshness and sides of tren. Ive run trenbolone acetate as high as 800mg and 500mg testosterone enanthate per week, without a dopamine agonist or an AI and had no gyno issues.
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    Tren ace isn't tren suspension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleazy E

    Just to clarify to all of you... I DO NOT MESS WITH PRO-HORMONES!! I always stick to only AAS.
    All the comaprisons I made were between SD and injectible anabolic steroids. I guess I should have clarified that since this is the pro-hormone section.

    Jbryand if you think that SD is anywhere near as strong or effective as injectable trenbolone then I would have to argue that your statement I quoted above is coming back to bite you in a@@ bro.

    P.S. Trenbolone base (and once again Im not refering to prohormones) is readily available if you do some research and get the right hookup.

    Poeple overhype the harshness and sides of tren. Ive run trenbolone acetate as high as 800mg and 500mg testosterone enanthate per week, without a dopamine agonist or an AI and had no gyno issues.
    800mg of tren acetate, and 500mg of test e?
    Uh,....... Okay.....if you say so....

    What's that, about 115mg each day. Huh, never seen Sd need to be dosed that high.

    Like I said, it seems sd mg for mg is more potent. But, you can't mega dose it like trenbolone.
    Now slap a methyl on tren, well, Sd doesn't stand a chance. That's a better comparison. Di methyl tren, lol well, I for the numbers somewhere on this board.

    But tren vs dht, tren wins. Fo sho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleazy E View Post
    Just to clarify to all of you... I DO NOT MESS WITH PRO-HORMONES!! I always stick to only AAS.
    All the comaprisons I made were between SD and injectible anabolic steroids. I guess I should have clarified that since this is the pro-hormone section.

    Jbryand if you think that SD is anywhere near as strong or effective as injectable trenbolone then I would have to argue that your statement I quoted above is coming back to bite you in a@@ bro.


    P.S. Trenbolone base (and once again Im not refering to prohormones) is readily available if you do some research and get the right hookup.

    Poeple overhype the harshness and sides of tren. Ive run trenbolone acetate as high as 800mg and 500mg testosterone enanthate per week, without a dopamine agonist or an AI and had no gyno issues.
    I don't think anyone's arguing the availability of it, but in the same way Tren's sides are overstated, so are SD's, along with other compounds. Just saying...the gap between the two is not as wide as most people think...IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    800mg of tren acetate, and 500mg of test e?
    Uh,....... Okay.....if you say so....

    What's that, about 115mg each day. Huh, never seen Sd need to be dosed that high.

    Like I said, it seems sd mg for mg is more potent. But, you can't mega dose it like trenbolone.
    Now slap a methyl on tren, well, Sd doesn't stand a chance. That's a better comparison. Di methyl tren, lol well, I for the numbers somewhere on this board.

    But tren vs dht, tren wins. Fo sho.
    Come on brah... you gonna go there? You should know that comparing steroids on a mg for mg or on their androgenic/anabolic ratio doesnt translate to results in real life.
    If you cannot run SD at the dosages needed to get the same results most poeple do from a decent cycle of tren then it means nothing.

    Also I didnt say you needed to run tren at the doses I did,Ive seen poeple have great results off of 200mg per week.
    Thats just what i personally chose to do and i stated it as a reference that the sides of tren are overhyped.

    By the way there already is methylated tren (methyltrienolone) and in case you wondered there is also methylated nandrolone (dimethyl nandrolone). Both are dosed in the micrograms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    wait, tren the prohormone? what are you talking about?

    trenadione? or dienedione? both really suck at 30mg.
    thats your opinion... my body responds very well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Tren ace isn't tren suspension.
    Did anyone say it was?
    I clearly wrote base (this means it has no ester) and acetate to make it clear which one i was refering to.
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    DYMASTERDRON?? you got me there... but after doing some research it seems you either have the one up on the whole internet or you spelled it wrong or you just made it up lol cause i came back empty handed after my search.

    Mind linking me? Im always interested in learning new things.
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    newbs, what are you going to do....

    mg for mg, di methyl dht is more potent than trenbolone. this is a fact, regardless of androgenic/anabolic ratios.

    but this is an unfair comparison.

    mg for mg, di methyl trenbolone is more potent than di methyl dht, this is a fair comparison.

    but regardless, superdrol is more potent than trenbolone.

    now, for the reading comprehension denied, this is not saying superdrol is better than trenbolone, but simply more potent. not by much though.

    just like it's not saying di methyl trenbolone is better than superdrol, it isn't, it's worse, but it is more potent mg for mg.

    newbs, what are you going to do.

    "there already is methyl tren an di methyl tren"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleazy E View Post
    DYMASTERDRON?? you got me there... but after doing some research it seems you either have the one up on the whole internet or you spelled it wrong or you just made it up lol cause i came back empty handed after my search.

    Mind linking me? Im always interested in learning new things.
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