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    Androgens/new wave of DHEA PH's on a test cycle


    I have seen this talked about. The idea has been pitched by the companies that have released these compounds lately (PP, FRL, AMS to name a few). Take X compound on TRT or on a test cycle, reap the benefits.
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    Any feedback on the effects of this?
    What compounds did you take?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
    I have seen this talked about. The idea has been pitched by the companies that have released these compounds lately (PP, FRL, AMS to name a few). Take X compound on TRT or on a test cycle, reap the benefits.
    I haven't seen this REFLECTED by any members though.
    Any feedback on the effects of this?
    What compounds did you take?
    I took the new Androlean on my test cycle and really loved it! It helped reduce bloat, trimmed my mid section down, really helped Lean me out and vascularity was freaky. Naturally I'm not a very vascularr looking person.

    I am considering AH for a up coming tren ace cycle but we will see, trying to keep costs low.
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.
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    Any DHT based prohormone, Stanodrol/Androhard should in theory work considerably better than an AI for reducing estrogen.

    If you're not DHT sensitive, I highly recommend 800-1200mg Stanodrol/daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr
    Any DHT based prohormone, Stanodrol/Androhard should in theory work considerably better than an AI for reducing estrogen.

    If you're not DHT sensitive, I highly recommend 800-1200mg Stanodrol/daily.
    During a tren ace cycle? I have no DHT sides
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr View Post
    Any DHT based prohormone, Stanodrol/Androhard should in theory work considerably better than an AI for reducing estrogen.

    If you're not DHT sensitive, I highly recommend 800-1200mg Stanodrol/daily.
    yeah the AHv3 is almost as good as masteron, and we all know test/masteron cycles are nice. so that is one there....and as tech said the androlean is wicked with test for losing fat/midsection fat. You can incorporate this stuff into cycles, or into TRT....just have to use different methods and dosages of course. the andromass/androbulk? don't see their place with a test cycle....although the 19-nor in the bulk would probably work well with test (and the 4DHEA). I'll be doing that next actually
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    And I use an AI with Androhard, epi, stano.....for me its necessary, I never get sides from combining AI/DHT...even at high dosages....
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    I know this isn't test, but I also ran a helladrol/ AH cycle and loved it to...

    PP is a great addition to any cycle
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    What I don't get is why if Androhard and tren are both androgenic why would you want to stack them? Seems like you'd want something more anabolic for the tren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
    What I don't get is why if Androhard and tren are both androgenic why would you want to stack them? Seems like you'd want something more anabolic for the tren.
    I am actually going to start researching this because I keep hearing that too.
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    superdrol with tren.

    low dosed ai ran during entire cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    superdrol with tren.

    low dosed ai ran during entire cycle.
    What is the ratio for superdrol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    What I don't get is why if Androhard and tren are both androgenic why would you want to stack them? Seems like you'd want something more anabolic for the tren.
    Tren is quite anabolic as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    Tren is quite anabolic as well.
    500:500 is what I read.
    Just confuses me on why you would want more androgens in this case, with real world results (recomp, aggression etc) showing that tren seems to be androgenic enough as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    superdrol with tren.

    low dosed ai ran during entire cycle.
    On actually doing this my next cycle! You think I should over lap them? I was going to do tren forc8 weeks then SD for 4 weeks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by technique88

    On actually doing this my next cycle! You think I should over lap them? I was going to do tren forc8 weeks then SD for 4 weeks...
    If you did that you have to worry about feeling like sh1t the entire cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    If you did that you have to worry about feeling like sh1t the entire cycle.
    maybe he's a masochist and likes that type of torture
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM

    If you did that you have to worry about feeling like sh1t the entire cycle.
    SD treats me well. I get lethargic for about 4 dad but when my body adjusts I feel great! No crap like feeling for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by technique88

    SD treats me well. I get lethargic for about 4 dad but when my body adjusts I feel great! No crap like feeling for me
    Lucky. Last time I took it all I felt was bad lol. No impressive gains. Just crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM

    Lucky. Last time I took it all I felt was bad lol. No impressive gains. Just crap.
    I'm sure the testosterone as a base really helped out a lot with the sh**y side effects of SD.
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    im running masteron now best steroid iEVER ran do you think stanodrol is better than ahv3? Which would you get cuz masteron can get pricey
    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    And I use an AI with Androhard, epi, stano.....for me its necessary, I never get sides from combining AI/DHT...even at high dosages....
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    i believe the dht negates the negative estrogen side effects of not having enough dht, works way better(dht based compound) than any ai or anti-prolactin could ever dream of doing
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    I am actually going to start researching this because I keep hearing that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    i believe the dht negates the negative estrogen side effects of not having enough dht, works way better(dht based compound) than any ai or anti-prolactin could ever dream of doing
    I've bee reading that. I am unsure of what run though. I liked AHv3 a lot but stano is significantly cheaper. I might end up running stano at 1g ED. Still in the planning phase.
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    I'm experimenting with Stano right now... I'd be willing to bet AHv3 is better than Stano, but I've searched high and low on all the major forums and just cant find good comparisons.

    Basically the only reason I am using Stano is for the conversion to DHT. That is all I want out of it. I just want it to keep estrogen at bay, and keep my DHT levels up. I just aborted a MWF 30mg superdrol pulse cycle after I started feeling the Stano kick in. I only dose SD Monday/Wednesday. I never expected to see/feel anything from it but the more Stano I run, the better I feel. The only side I have found from it is "over stimulation" if I over do it. Mind you so far over doing it was my initial AM dose of 800mg, and then 3 hours later another 400mg. I felt sightly jittery. I have only run 1200mg in a day so far, but I prefer the initial pick me up from 800mg in the AM.

    Stano dried me out considerably within the first week. I had no idea how bloated I was, but I shed 5lbs of water over the first 3 days and have now reached a steady weight. I was on 2 caps of Erase right up until I started Stano, which is why I was so freaked out when I started pissing like a race horse. What I thought was fat turned out to be mostly water. I visibly "leaned" out in the first week, but I feel this was water mostly. There's no way to 5lbs of fat off in a week haha.

    I keep hearing how supposedly "weak" Stano is, but so far I'm really enjoying how it makes me feel overall... I'm only a week in so it's too early to tell what exactly is going on, but I am going to experiment with it and try to get a more accurate idea of how it works in my body before I add anything else to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr
    I'm experimenting with Stano right now... I'd be willing to bet AHv3 is better than Stano, but I've searched high and low on all the major forums and just cant find good comparisons.

    Basically the only reason I am using Stano is for the conversion to DHT. That is all I want out of it. I just want it to keep estrogen at bay, and keep my DHT levels up. I just aborted a MWF 30mg superdrol pulse cycle after I started feeling the Stano kick in. I only dose SD Monday/Wednesday. I never expected to see/feel anything from it but the more Stano I run, the better I feel. The only side I have found from it is "over stimulation" if I over do it. Mind you so far over doing it was my initial AM dose of 800mg, and then 3 hours later another 400mg. I felt sightly jittery. I have only run 1200mg in a day so far, but I prefer the initial pick me up from 800mg in the AM.

    Stano dried me out considerably within the first week. I had no idea how bloated I was, but I shed 5lbs of water over the first 3 days and have now reached a steady weight. I was on 2 caps of Erase right up until I started Stano, which is why I was so freaked out when I started pissing like a race horse. What I thought was fat turned out to be mostly water. I visibly "leaned" out in the first week, but I feel this was water mostly. There's no way to 5lbs of fat off in a week haha.

    I keep hearing how supposedly "weak" Stano is, but so far I'm really enjoying how it makes me feel overall... I'm only a week in so it's too early to tell what exactly is going on, but I am going to experiment with it and try to get a more accurate idea of how it works in my body before I add anything else to it.
    Sold! Lol I think I will include stano and SD right after I end tren ace to finish up the cycle. SD at the end of a cycle is honestly, amazing!
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technique88 View Post
    I've bee reading that. I am unsure of what run though. I liked AHv3 a lot but stano is significantly cheaper. I might end up running stano at 1g ED. Still in the planning phase.
    That isn't true...considering you can get AH at 25% off and a suggested dose is 1200mgs I'm not seeing how stano is cheaper. Given AH also contains both isomers and our delivery system is proven to work AH is quite a bit stronger

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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    What I don't get is why if Androhard and tren are both androgenic why would you want to stack them? Seems like you'd want something more anabolic for the tren.
    AH will help with any possible tren induced gyno

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    i believe the dht negates the negative estrogen side effects of not having enough dht, works way better(dht based compound) than any ai or anti-prolactin could ever dream of doing
    What type of sides can come from low DHT? I had my DHT levels checked and they were off the charts low--a few months back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    What type of sides can come from low DHT? I had my DHT levels checked and they were off the charts low--a few months back.
    Very low libido.


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    Not all androgens are created equally. Look at cycles like tren/mast compared to tren, tren mast will always win out in overall feeling on cycle, and libido especially.
    Just inject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    Very low libido.

    Flex -

    Not all androgens are created equally. Look at cycles like tren/mast compared to tren, tren mast will always win out in overall feeling on cycle, and libido especially.
    True.
    I'm thinking a good use for the Androseries would be Androhard on a shorter tren ace cycle and to pick a more anabolic ph to throw in and balance the equation out...
    Then either borderline crush estrogen on cycle or just make sure the DHEA picked isn't one that causes much bloat.
    I don't feel I saw any bloat on AndroMass or AlphaMass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    That isn't true...considering you can get AH at 25% off and a suggested dose is 1200mgs I'm not seeing how stano is cheaper. Given AH also contains both isomers and our delivery system is proven to work AH is quite a bit stronger
    How would running AH at 3 caps do during a tren cycle? To serve as just a base and not really looking for gains from the AH.
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