var/winny...what PH to add

  1. var/winny...what PH to add


    hey guys trying to plan a var winny cycle... tyring to figure out what PH to add in the mix.... hdrol? epistane? katandrol?... or should i just cut out any PH and run var winny solo


  2. Testosterone

  3. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
    Testosterone
    2nd this
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  4. im not into needles, and i dont want to run 12 weeks of testosterone..... maybe a test based ph?

  5. sdrol or stano

  6. stano for sure mechabol
    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    sdrol or stano

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    stano for sure mechabol
    i was thinkin dermacrine?? sdrol is way too toxic on live to be runnign with oral winny IMO

  8. i agree run dermacrine or/and mechabol
    Quote Originally Posted by chil View Post
    i was thinkin dermacrine?? sdrol is way too toxic on live to be runnign with oral winny IMO

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    i agree run dermacrine or/and mechabol
    any suggestions on dermacrine doseage?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by chil View Post
    any suggestions on dermacrine doseage?
    Mechabol 75-100mg daily.
    Dermacrine at full recommended pumps (I think it is 5-6).

    BUT I'd suggest androenhance instead as a better test base. That's just me though.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    Mechabol 75-100mg daily.
    Dermacrine at full recommended pumps (I think it is 5-6).

    BUT I'd suggest androenhance instead as a better test base. That's just me though.

    andro enhance to substitute the dermacrine ?...dayumm andro enhance is expensive, how long does the bottle last ? and would i run it into PCT

  12. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
    Testosterone
    ^^ yes run prop then for less time

  13. Quote Originally Posted by DNAMP View Post
    ^^ yes run prop then for less time
    i dont think runnign test prop for 4 weeks is going to do much.... and i dont want the jab myself with needles, that freaks me out lol im using oral winnie for a reason

  14. Why are you running var AND winny?

    Why are adding a PH to this cycle?

    What are your goals?

    Do you have any experience with gear?

    Quote Originally Posted by chil View Post
    hey guys trying to plan a var winny cycle... tyring to figure out what PH to add in the mix.... hdrol? epistane? katandrol?... or should i just cut out any PH and run var winny solo
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Why are you running var AND winny?

    Why are adding a PH to this cycle?

    What are your goals?

    Do you have any experience with gear?
    im running var and winny to drop body fat, and put on a couple lbs of muscle

    adding a ph to solidify gains, add more muscle instead of just cutting

    i ran var/winnie before i saw few lb of muscle gain but significant bf losses...ive ran hdrol and epistane and stanodrol before

    my goals are 190 6% BF im 185 right now like 13% im going to bulk for another month before i run this

  16. ur not going from 13-15 % bf to 6 and gaining 5 lbs man sorry to break it to u unless you havePERFECT NUTRITIONS

    Quote Originally Posted by chil View Post
    im running var and winny to drop body fat, and put on a couple lbs of muscle

    adding a ph to solidify gains, add more muscle instead of just cutting

    i ran var/winnie before i saw few lb of muscle gain but significant bf losses...ive ran hdrol and epistane and stanodrol before

    my goals are 190 6% BF im 185 right now like 13% im going to bulk for another month before i run this

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    ur not going from 13-15 % bf to 6 and gaining 5 lbs man sorry to break it to u unless you havePERFECT NUTRITIONS
    My diet is on point, believe me i know it doesnt matter what you run but how you eat when you run it

  18. Test Gel bam. No more need of needles and you don't have to rape your liver
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Test Gel bam. No more need of needles and you don't have to rape your liver
    Legit test gel seems much harder to acquire than actual test.
    Now....acquiring raw test powder and mixing a transdermal would be fun.

  20. Just take some SD for 4 weeks, go take a hormone panel with your GP ....and while your there complain about lethargy and low sex drive. results will be back within the week. They'll give you some test gel and you can just use it on cycle and stock it up rather than using it daily for TRT (and NO I did NOT do this, I am old and have low test from being elderly or abuse of HPTA or both!)

  21. i have no idea where to get test gel....but i would grab some if i could believe me.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Test Gel bam. No more need of needles and you don't have to rape your liver

  22. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    Just take some SD for 4 weeks, go take a hormone panel with your GP ....and while your there complain about lethargy and low sex drive. results will be back within the week. They'll give you some test gel and you can just use it on cycle and stock it up rather than using it daily for TRT (and NO I did NOT do this, I am old and have low test from being elderly or abuse of HPTA or both!)
    that sounds like it would work

  23. I would not suggest running TRT since you are probably young.....but there is nothing wrong with finagling some androgel from the doctor by using this scheme. Gel is a major PITA for daily application I'll tell you....but for 8-12 week cycles it should work great.

  24. It was the VAR that stripped your body fat
    You'd get better/cleaner/lesss-bs results with JUST Var

    Quote Originally Posted by chil View Post
    im running var and winny to drop body fat, and put on a couple lbs of muscle

    adding a ph to solidify gains, add more muscle instead of just cutting

    i ran var/winnie before i saw few lb of muscle gain but significant bf losses...ive ran hdrol and epistane and stanodrol before

    my goals are 190 6% BF im 185 right now like 13% im going to bulk for another month before i run this
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    It was the VAR that stripped your body fat
    You'd get better/cleaner/lesss-bs results with JUST Var

    really i always thought it was the winny that did it lol i'll prob just run var then 50 mg's for 6 weeks does that sound legit...run some torem for pct and take all my cycle supports

  26. Quote Originally Posted by chil View Post
    really i always thought it was the winny that did it lol i'll prob just run var then 50 mg's for 6 weeks does that sound legit...run some torem for pct and take all my cycle supports
    I would do Var with test, get the gel or cream. If you can get Var&Winny I'm sure you can get test gel&cream also. I think cream is better.

    Good luck!

  27. I have good experience with havoc
  

  
 

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