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    First ph cycle, hows this look?


    Im looking to do my first cycle and decided on using hdrol. I think im going to do a 5 week cycle since it takes a few weeks to kick in, or should i do a 4 week since its my first time? i think i have everything covered but just want to make sure theres no holes.

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    cycle assist+liv52, 1 week preload
    CEL hdrol- 50/75/75/75/75
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    liv52

    Pct-
    nolva-20/20/10/10 (Should i start at 40 the first week or is 20 fine?)
    Daa-3/3/3/3
    Erase -/-/-/-(do i just take the recommended dose?)

    I also have taurine incase of back pumps. (What should i dose this at? 4g/day?)
    Is cycle assist and liv52 overkill?

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    Most people do six weeks, I wouldn't go less than five. Don't think you need to preload cycle assist start taking it first day of cycle. Everything else looks good
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    Quote Originally Posted by lltomll View Post
    Pct-
    nolva-20/20/10/10 (Should i start at 40 the first week or is 20 fine?)
    Daa-3/3/3/3
    Erase -/-/-/-(do i just take the recommended dose?)

    I also have taurine incase of back pumps. (What should i dose this at? 4g/day?)
    Is cycle assist and liv52 overkill?
    1)The more the better to a certain extent, 40 is always good but IMO I'd rather have a longer pct than a short one
    2)----
    3)4g/day is goooood. 3 grams sorts me out though.
    4)No.
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    should i dose it 50/50/75/75/75/75 or jump to 75 the second week? also is jumping to 100 the last week or 2 a good idea?
    Also how should i dose erase, recommended dose till bottle runs out?, and should i wait a week into pct to start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    1)The more the better to a certain extent, 40 is always good but IMO I'd rather have a longer pct than a short one
    2)----
    3)4g/day is goooood. 3 grams sorts me out though.
    4)No.
    So would 40/20/20/10/10 be better or 40/20/10/10?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lltomll
    So would 40/20/20/10/10 be better or 40/20/10/10?
    20/20/10/10 and run the DAA from the first day of pct. I have used this a few times and it's worked for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickype

    20/20/10/10 and run the DAA from the first day of pct. I have used this a few times and it's worked for me
    On the first day of pct do a 60mg to kick start everything but carry on with 20 for the rest of the first week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickype

    On the first day of pct do a 60mg to kick start everything but carry on with 20 for the rest of the first week.
    You can can always carry on with DAA longer than four weeks but the SERM stick to four weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickype View Post
    20/20/10/10 and run the DAA from the first day of pct. I have used this a few times and it's worked for me
    Thanks, what about erase? how should that be dosed
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    Quote Originally Posted by lltomll

    Thanks, what about erase? how should that be dosed
    I personally don't think it's needed , I would save your money. But if you really want to use it on week 3 of pct 3 caps of Erase then week 4 down to 2 then weeks 5 and 6 at 1 cap per day
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    Quote Originally Posted by lltomll View Post
    should i dose it 50/50/75/75/75/75 or jump to 75 the second week? also is jumping to 100 the last week or 2 a good idea?
    Also how should i dose erase, recommended dose till bottle runs out?, and should i wait a week into pct to start?
    It's fine if you want to jump to 75 the second week. See how you handle it first then gauge if you want to bump to 100. I ran my cycle of helladrol 75/75/100/100/100/100 and that was my first cycle. However I don't know if helladrol may be underdosed compared to cel hdrol so just see how you feel and bump up if you feel necessary. I wouldn't go higher than 100 though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lltomll View Post
    So would 40/20/20/10/10 be better or 40/20/10/10?
    40/20/20/10/10 is better. You will get your natural test back quicker. As the guy/s above said add DAA
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    Quote Originally Posted by lltomll View Post
    Im looking to do my first cycle and decided on using hdrol. I think im going to do a 5 week cycle since it takes a few weeks to kick in, or should i do a 4 week since its my first time? i think i have everything covered but just want to make sure theres no holes.

    Cycle-

    cycle assist+liv52, 1 week preload
    CEL hdrol- 50/75/75/75/75
    cycle assist
    liv52

    Pct-
    nolva-20/20/10/10 (Should i start at 40 the first week or is 20 fine?)
    Daa-3/3/3/3
    Erase -/-/-/-(do i just take the recommended dose?)

    I also have taurine incase of back pumps. (What should i dose this at? 4g/day?)
    Is cycle assist and liv52 overkill?
    I would run your H-drol 6 weeks, up the dose to 75 in the second week. Everything else looks good. This was my first cycle and it did me well
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    Erase is a great idea from week 2, dose it 0/0/3/2/2/1/1 and you'll be g2g. If you're going to use DAA (which I recommend for sure) id doubly encourage the erase and adding some l-dopa to help with prolactin. You could use lecheek AD-3 which has the same ai/cortisol control as erase plus l-dopa in it, dose it 0/0/2/2/1/1/1 and that would take care of you pretty well
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    Would vit b6 work as well as l-dopa as i already have some of this on hand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lltomll
    Would vit b6 work as well as l-dopa as i already have some of this on hand?
    Full B complex would be better as B6,B9,and B12 all help increase dopamine production. But B6 alone is def better than nothing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny
    Erase is a great idea from week 2, dose it 0/0/3/2/2/1/1 and you'll be g2g. If you're going to use DAA (which I recommend for sure) id doubly encourage the erase and adding some l-dopa to help with prolactin. You could use lecheek AD-3 which has the same ai/cortisol control as erase plus l-dopa in it, dose it 0/0/2/2/1/1/1 and that would take care of you pretty well
    Just use 2g of vit c from week 2 of pct for cortisol for 4 weeks. Cheap and effective
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickype

    Just use 2g of vit c from week 2 of pct for cortisol for 4 weeks. Cheap and effective
    Is this as effective as lean xtreme?

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    I have used vit c loads at that dose and it's worked for me. Vit c for this use is well documented to work
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    don't cycle assist have liver protection? i don't see a need for extra liv52 but won't hurt..
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    don't cycle assist have liver protection? i don't see a need for extra liv52 but won't hurt..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat99
    don't cycle assist have liver protection? i don't see a need for extra liv52 but won't hurt..
    It's a waste of money using both. Just stick with cycle assist
  

  
 

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