So if I was to run it two week on two week off do I still need to get ketotifen??? Also when I build upto my tolerance do I maintain at that level till the end of the two week period????
I've never had a cramp off Clen, and i've run 200mcg a day consistantly. If you're having dehydration issues then yes, taurine and potassium and electrolytes and minerals are your friend.
He never said he was going hypocaloric. Clen is anti catabolic for normal purposes.
not once had in not give me cramps. happens to a lot of buddies too. always take 1-2g taurine and im golden
Weird, both that you and your friends get cramps from clen, and such a low dose of Taurine would work. Taurine, to have a noticeable effect on water circulation, needs to be dosed upwards of 6g. That's roughly the studied dose.
You should be drinking a lot of water regardless, drinking 1/2 to 1 gallon of water a day is good for you. You'll probably sweat while on clen, so keeping hydrated is even more important than normal. You don't necessarily have to use Taurine, just keep hydrated. If you do get cramping, pick up some taurine and use 6g or so a day.
So is mine... Getting big is of course the ultimate target.... But my first plan is to strip that fat away... Once I get that target done then I'll start the getting bigger plan...
Isn't it easier to do a cut if the bulk didn't really add too much fat... I mean keep the body at around 12-14%... Plus I think you get a better idea of what areas to really concentrate on when u lean out first before u do a bulk... I mite be wrong... Still kind of a newbie...
Well, think of it this way. If you're 20% bf, it's easy to cut. If you're 10% it's harder to get sub 10. The lower the bodyfat, the harder it is to lose bodyfat much less maintain low fat. It's the reason competitors don't typically stay low bf in the offseason. It's the reason i don't go sub 10% until right before a physique show. It's simply easier to gain the weight you need to, and then spend some time cutting. Even at 14 or so percent you'll be able to see which bodyparts are lagging.
Use the search function, tons of threads on clen. What you get out of it is what you put in to it. If you eat 1k above maintenance and take clen, you'll think it's worthless. If you combine with diet and exercise, fat loss will be magnified.
Sure, if that's what you want to do then do it. My 2 cents are simply that you're doing it the harder way, but that's how you learn.
I would love to do a bulk at 14%... But I just seem to be putting on excess fat in all the wrong places... And I eat clean... And weight and count everything... Slow bulking is the only thing that works for me...
What results have u had from clen so far???
Only on first week but noticing that my veins are coming through on my arms. Wife says that my belly fat has gone down alittle. Im happy with it so far knowing by the snd of week two i should see really good results
Are you doing the 2week on 2 week off??? Have u had any cramps on it??? Taking any supplements with it???
I was worried that I might actually die. I was getting close to calling 911.
Yep 2 on 2 off taking bcaas and protein only. I do have occasional cramps not too bad tho
Dang that sucks!!! Better safe than sorry.
Lol.Psh rookies. Take 200mcg in a day then talk about sides
Maybe for you, for others... maybe not. When you realize that every body is different you'll understand whey dosages for things like clen vary so much. 200mcg was rough, but was bearable for a few weeks while making the last push before getting on stage at my May competition. The body is an amazing organism and will adapt and withstand many things.
That's what I thought... I wanted to get as lean as possible and then start a bulk where I can keep my bf at abt 12-14%... That made more sense to me than bulking first and then planning a cut... Hard to know what the bulk is..
Wut? This is an anabolic forum, and we're discussing fat loss, and you're commenting on losing muscle during a cut post bulk? Not sure if serious. Keep protein intake high, protein is muscle sparing. Run steroids, anabolics spare muscle during a caloric deficit. Don't go hypocaloric during your cut, there's literally no point.
I could be very wrong, but last i checked (which was only about a year ago, this study is from 1996) clen is not anabolic for our purposes. I skimmed that study as it's late and i need to get to bed, but i'm pretty sure the dosages used were well above what a human can ingest. That may have played a key role in the anabolic traits expressed. I'll look in to this tomorrow if i have time and post again.
How much did you take? And ya work outs are insane with sweating. Went through two towels lifting One day.
Was day one so I started on 40mcg... I stuck to the same today too... No headache today... Just shakes... And sweating.. Sometimes it feels like a heat wave... I was driving with air on on full and still was feeling hot... And my hunger is insane... That's one thing I'm worried abt... I normally get full after each of my meal.., but I felt like I just had a starter..
If u read through the thread it actually explains the effect on heart...
Not sure how it works but it does raise ur heartbeat.... I could feel my hard beating... When u workout or cardio it gets faster... HIT is a no no on clen...
Clen is anti-catabolic under most circumstances. Maybe you're thinking of the study showing it to be pro anabolic, which in fact used dosages not applicable to humans.
Dose for EC should be 600mg caffeine in total (3 doses of 200mg). Regardless, Clen does provide some energy among other side effects. I really don't see any type of stimulant effect from clen anymore, just some of the worse sides like jitters, vision issues, and sweating.
