Good Liver Friendly Phs ?

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  1. whatever you do dont stack methylated compounds and you can get away with just taking cycle assist. idk to much about prohoromes but the strongest non methyl use to be 19-nor (tren) but that got banned.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser76
    Oh, and to the OP. Liver friendly PHs is like Family friendly porn.... It doesn't exist for a reason.
    I laughed out loud at this...still tying to convince my wife otherwise...
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by lboston

    I laughed out loud at this...still tying to convince my wife otherwise...
    Me too, brother. Me too...

  4. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    probably any of the androseries (DHEA based) and 7/11 keto/oxo....been on both and bloodwork said liver was perfectly normal in the 7th week of 8 week cycles. I believe Pstanz/win-50 is pretty friendly....these off the top of my head....
    ^^^Any of the AndorSereies products are liver, heart, kidney...safe and they work


  5. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    ^^^Any of the AndorSereies products are liver, heart, kidney...safe and they work
    I haven't tried any DHEA products yet, but the best thing about these in my opinion is the fact you stay on longer. More time to enjoy intense pumps and more time to train for gains.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by retroscapers View Post
    I haven't tried any DHEA products yet, but the best thing about these in my opinion is the fact you stay on longer. More time to enjoy intense pumps and more time to train for gains.
    Yes you can stay on longer in fact we recommend 8 week cycles and I am currently running a 12 week cycle myself. Longer cycles typically produce better sustained gains and given PCT is also much easier overall it is a win win imo.


  7. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    Yes you can stay on longer in fact we recommend 8 week cycles and I am currently running a 12 week cycle myself. Longer cycles typically produce better sustained gains and given PCT is also much easier overall it is a win win imo.
    Just curious but what is your current cycle and pct ?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    Just curious but what is your current cycle and pct ?
    AM at 6 pills a day weeks 1-12
    AE 5 pumps a day weeks 6-12
    Trenazone weeks 1-6

    PCT will be 4 weeks Torem 120/90/60/30 and the TRS with an additional 4 weeks of SA solo stacked with Anabeta Elite I may throw in a low dose of Osta in PCT if I can get regular intervals of blood work to show it isn't inhibiting recovery


  9. Quote Originally Posted by JoeySon View Post
    Everybody wants this, truth is the most "mild" ph's are the non-methylated. Typically mild on liver=mild gains so you'll be hard pressed to find a non methylated PH that will put good size on you. Try m-lgm, trenazone, or trenavar
    Agreed here. You'll see great gains with Trenazone or Trenavar. M-LMG I don't know about running it solo.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    Agreed here. You'll see great gains with Trenazone or Trenavar. M-LMG I don't know about running it solo.
    Solo M-LMG will produce great gains, I would stack it with an available test base


  11. Stano, lmg, androseries,alpha series,trenazone,sarms are also a option. Some winny clones, 11-oxo 1 ad and 4ad . Quite a selection actually.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt
    Stano, lmg, androseries,alpha series,trenazone,sarms are also a option. Some winny clones, 11-oxo 1 ad and 4ad . Quite a selection actually.
    lmg is methylated just not a 17 a methyl so it's not as damaging.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17

    lmg is methylated just not a 17 a methyl so it's not as damaging.
    I was under impression (13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one ) is UN methylated.
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  14. Just go pure topical cycle!

    2 mls of trenazone a day

    4 pumps of AndroEnhance a day -- keep your liver and appetite!

    -Matt

  15. Anyone have good experiences with the AMS or forerunner products?

  16. I like both Forerunner and AMS 1-DHEA products.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by jerrysiii
    I like both Forerunner and AMS 1-DHEA products.
    What type of gains have you seen from them?

  18. Just did 5 pumps of old Pp 1T --- about passed out after 3 hrs from lethargy........gosh how do people tolerate that feeling?

    -Matt

  19. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Just did 5 pumps of old Pp 1T --- about passed out after 3 hrs from lethargy........gosh how do people tolerate that feeling?

    -Matt
    Ass loads of 4AD/test


  20. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    What type of gains have you seen from them?
    Dry and lean gains. I'm stacking with TRT gel and 4 AndroMass caps.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by jerrysiii
    Dry and lean gains. I'm stacking with TRT gel and 4 AndroMass caps.
    Nice-how long/ how many pounds you up?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Nice-how long/ how many pounds you up?
    I did six weeks and averaged just under a pound of lean mass per week. I then did a short 2-week dbol cycle. I'm now back to cruising on the AMS, Forerunner, and PP products (along with my TRT cream).

    My plan is to do 8 - 12 weeks on these mild hormones and incorporate short 2 - 3 week harsher cycles periodically.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Ass loads of 4AD/test

    Apparently the ester has not kicked in because I was downfor the count......just crashed early....not like me at all!!!

    -Matt

  24. Quote Originally Posted by jerrysiii View Post
    I did six weeks and averaged just under a pound of lean mass per week. I then did a short 2-week dbol cycle. I'm now back to cruising on the AMS, Forerunner, and PP products (along with my TRT cream).

    My plan is to do 8 - 12 weeks on these mild hormones and incorporate short 2 - 3 week harsher cycles periodically.
    Jerry sounds like you are staying regimented more than ever and continuing to make progress....very happy for you

    -Matt

  25. 550-XD is fantastic in my personal opinion. It in non-methylated and has a built in liver protection and estrogen blocker matrix. It is awesome for a re-comp. I ran 3 bottles at 4 caps per day and gained around 4 lbs while stripping around 9% body fat. PCT consisted of 2 PCT Revolution Black and 6 caps of Pure Test DAA. Yes I am a Finaflex Rep, but I have personally used this product and had great results. Good Luck!
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252210-greens-climb-top.html#post4548443
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