Best liver support and why?

[lboston]

Looking for information as to what some gents feel is the best liver support supplement for on/ off-cycle use.

What about specific type/ brands/ bang for the buck?

[crispycrown]

Liv 52!!!! been around for awhile and powerful stuff, used for clean, detox, support, you name it and liv 52 will do it.

numerous studies done showing the potency of it and all at a good cost too. the simplest google search will pull up bunches of products for hundreds of tablets under a buck. i take it constantly, on or off cycle

[lboston]

Liv 52!!!! been around for awhile and powerful stuff, used for clean, detox, support, you name it and liv 52 will do it.

numerous studies done showing the potency of it and all at a good cost too. the simplest google search will pull up bunches of products for hundreds of tablets under a buck. i take it constantly, on or off cycle

Mainly considering that or something with TUDCA.
However, I've seen articles online that seem to support the use of SAMe as well.

[HereToStudy]

UDCA > TUDCA > Liver Juice > Standard Milk Thistle

UDCA - obvious, pharmaceutical product created for liver protection
TUDCA - Similar, only ranked less because the taurine becomes part of the product's weight, so more needed, in theory.
Liver Juice - Best Milk Thistle product available.
Milk Thistle - Best herb available.

I personally like the combination of UDCA and Liver Juice. I have come out of cycles in range for LFTs.

[lboston]

UDCA > TUDCA > Liver Juice > Standard Milk Thistle

UDCA - obvious, pharmaceutical product created for liver protection
TUDCA - Similar, only ranked less because the taurine becomes part of the product's weight, so more needed, in theory.
Liver Juice - Best Milk Thistle product available.
Milk Thistle - Best herb available.

I personally like the combination of UDCA and Liver Juice. I have come out of cycles in range for LFTs.

Going to pick up the liver juice...need to find either some UDCA or TUDCA

[SuperPro]

Going to pick up the liver juice...need to find either some UDCA or TUDCA

Aegis is the easiest TUDCA to get, there's sites around where you can get it for 40$ for a 30 day supply(at 4 125mg caps a day). UDCA is on many research chem sites.

[lboston]

Aegis is the easiest TUDCA to get, there's sites around where you can get it for 40$ for a 30 day supply(at 4 125mg caps a day). UDCA is on many research chem sites.

You guys have any knowledge on SAMe? It seems to be very reasonable from NOW foods.
Some sites seem to really believe in the benefits of the product...not NOWs in particular, just SAMe.

[HereToStudy]

You should be fine with just the TUDCA and Liver Juice. I wouldn't keep adding to that.

[Warwarrior]

People often worry about their liver when they do gear, which is smart don't get me wrong, but what they really should be concerned in the long term is their heart and kidney.

[Rhadam]

If using orals, look for organ support as well as TUDCA/UDCA. If only pinning, overall organ support becomes a must. A healthy dose of CEL Cycle Assist is a nice addition.

[SuperPro]

I believe there's some studies on pubmed about TUDCA/UDCA and their affect on the kidneys. Not sure if any are conclusive though.

[Roniboney]

N2 Guard and Cycle Support are my favorites.I thought N2 Guard would be better tahn Cycle Support but my blood test show that as long as I keep the cycle support in for the entire cycle and PCT my liver enzymes bounce right back.

[HereToStudy]

People often worry about their liver when they do gear, which is smart don't get me wrong, but what they really should be concerned in the long term is their heart and kidney.

UDCA/TUDCA will have a benefit to lipid profile.
It is also a reason why I recommend our TOCO-8 product to be utilized throughout a cycle, and not just in PCT.

[Rhadam]

UDCA/TUDCA will have a benefit to lipid profile.
It is also a reason why I recommend our TOCO-8 product to be utilized throughout a cycle, and not just in PCT.

You don't happen to have the info on UDCA at high doses repairing damage do you? I've lost it.

[HereToStudy]

You don't happen to have the info on UDCA at high doses repairing damage do you? I've lost it.

I am at work right now. Somewhere at home I have a file with links to UDCA information. I can't guarantee it will be tonight, but by tomorrow night I will see if I can get some of that copied over here.

[Shawn26]

Aegis is the easiest TUDCA to get, there's sites around where you can get it for 40$ for a 30 day supply(at 4 125mg caps a day). UDCA is on many research chem sites.

This pick up a bottle of Aegis, your liver will thank you later on

[specmike]

Hey, looking for a rules clarification here. I found UDCA at a popular online retailer where a lot of people buy books. Is that considered discussing sources here? I'm not sure of the legal status of UDCA. But, I wanted to post the link to get some opinions about if this source and stuff is legit and if anyone had any experience with the source. But......I don't wanna moderator smak down either.

EDIT:Sorry for the typo, it's TUDCA (500g) for $15.00. Sounds too good to be true but they have a good rating on the as yet unnamed reseller site.

[bean5er]

May be dumb but I'm still learning so bare withe but precautions do u guys take for your kidneys, I havent ventured to PHs or AAS yet, but I've had a couple bouts with stones so I'm curious what precautions you guys take when cycling and off cycle for kidney health? Thanks

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[Shawn26]

I am at work right now. Somewhere at home I have a file with links to UDCA information. I can't guarantee it will be tonight, but by tomorrow night I will see if I can get some of that copied over here.

Sweat, I'd be interested in seeing this as well

[Lacrossedude6]

Newb question but I have heard that supps like milk thistle weaken your androgen receptors, therefore weakening the absorption of your anabolic, does anyone know if this is the case with a supplement like TUDCA