Dinabol and Winnie cycle
- 08-14-2012, 12:25 PM
Dinabol and Winnie cycle
New to the site and a new user to to these substances
Ive started with 50mg dianabol a day oral for 4 week cycle and noticed instant improvement mixed with right diet and creatine too
Now i still want to bulk but need to lose the fat so been told Winnie is a good cutting agent
Can I use the 2 together or do I have to use them separately ?
In an ideal world I want good size but nice definition too , also does anyone have an idea of how long it will take for Winnie to take effect and notice a difference ? And is here a diet I would need to stick too?
His seems to be the best place to get advise so any is greatly received
- 08-14-2012, 12:34 PM
With the amount of info you have you shouldn't be messing around with these substances, how long are you running the d-Bol for? How long do you plan on running the winny? What type of pct do you plan on using? I personally recommend following the keto diet, with moderate cardio, expect to lose a fair bit of gains from your d-Bol btw
- 08-14-2012, 12:51 PM
Unfortunately you sounds quite misguided and uninformed on proper ways to cycle steroids.
Dbol + winny is dangerous on lipids, liver and gains retention will suck and you will probably lose all gains 5-6 weeks after stopping.
I wont even push AndroSeries products on you because I'd imagine you arent ready for ANY hormones at this stage...Did you happen to have pictures ???
08-14-2012, 01:32 PM
It was recommended to me by a friend .. I'm quite stick and have strong shoulders but have excess weight in my stomach which I wanna shift
And advice you guys can give will be greatly received.. I wanna bulk up big, and then cut ... So I have large upper torso and chest but small stomach ...
What routine or supplement would u suggest ? Like I say im very new to this
08-14-2012, 01:43 PM
Research bro before you ever take anything hormonal. U need to get a hold of a serm since you've already been taking dbol. And test is always a great base to take with any cycle. Get a hold of a serm and stop the dbol and then do some research before u decide on another cycle.
08-14-2012, 01:51 PM
What's serm?? And is test short for testosterone ?
08-14-2012, 02:14 PM
Ha wow test is short for testosterone and a serm is clomid or nolva.
08-14-2012, 02:30 PM
08-14-2012, 02:31 PM
Amazes me how many people blindly use such harmful substances. And how old are you? You seem young or maybe just dumb by the way you are typing
08-14-2012, 02:37 PM
08-14-2012, 02:40 PM
08-14-2012, 02:41 PM
Why not toremOriginally Posted by MightyBeast
08-14-2012, 02:50 PM
Itw... I'm not dumb or young my friend ... I just went by advice given to me by an acquaintance ... He suggested using dbol to bulk
Then using a clen and winny stack to cut up
So rather than carry on I thought I'd ask on here the best way to bulk and cut.. And what supplements to use and how ?
Sorry if my inexperience offends u , but I needed advice and want to do this properly and safely .. That's the idea of a forum isn't it ???
Thank u all for other replies tho.. And advice greatly received :-)
08-14-2012, 02:52 PM
08-14-2012, 03:30 PM
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08-14-2012, 03:39 PM
Serm. Selective estrogen receptor modulator.Originally Posted by MightyBeast
08-14-2012, 04:30 PM
08-14-2012, 04:35 PM
08-14-2012, 04:38 PM
What does stomach shift mean? I've never heard of this.Originally Posted by Husker89
08-14-2012, 04:50 PM
this is wrong in so many ways D: , im too lazy to explain but that cycle is retarded. you are already fat and you want the winny to cut you while you gain?.... why dont you just try to drop as much fat as you can naturally? and then bulk? D: use the search button and do some research. BTW , when did you finish your 4 week dbol cycle? .... how long would you wait to start another?, you sound like a youngster, and feeling the need to use winny to cut fat is stupid. cutting fat is not a big deal, theres something called DEDICATION... winny wont do anything for you if you dont know how to cut fat naturally.
Being on top gives me a better view then I am able to see some of my "friends" true colors, they would try to bring me down from the bottom, but they cant... are they strong enough? Well they dont even lift, I do Tren :-)
08-14-2012, 05:03 PM
No mate I'm not young at all, just inexperienced with not a lot of knowledgeable people around me ...
I'm open to sensible advice in the best course I should take ? I ran a 4 week of dbol and dieted right and bulked up nicely .. Was advised to stop and then cut,... Which seeing a lot of your reactions was wrong ....
I just want a decent programme /advice as to the best things for me to do to get the gains I want ... FYI I am dedicated or I wouldn't of asked for advice from you guys who know what your doing
I wanna do this right !!!!
08-14-2012, 05:04 PM
08-14-2012, 05:08 PM
08-14-2012, 05:18 PM
Thanks mate.. That's the best advice I've had so far.... :-)
08-14-2012, 06:11 PM
Get clomid or nolva, google some pct setups, and personally I would stick away from orals like d-Bol if your looking for maintainable gains, winny does get you cut though, but do alot more research and look through many different sites, you will see some interesting opinions and research on different productsOriginally Posted by Gary_purser
08-14-2012, 09:11 PM
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08-14-2012, 10:56 PM
Op should should just run anavar or Winnie for six weeks or 8 weeks by themselfs two nice cycles you need to get some clomid though.
08-14-2012, 11:00 PM
I don't really agree with this... Running these compounds by themselves won't do very much, Winnie will help with cutting but as comparatively with test as a stack? Not even closeOriginally Posted by Gym4Life
08-16-2012, 04:19 AM
whoever gave you advice on winny to cut and dbol to bulk probably also recommends high reps to 'cut up' too....
Please take time --- take some good time and just LEARN --- good job starting here, but this should have been an assignment WELL IN ADVANCE from you touching some weird double oral stack....pin your gear for best safety.....
Everyone know what Ill recommend to a newbie for safety and OTC.....and its not a mthyl lol.....
08-16-2012, 05:01 AM
Thanks Matt for your honesty , i think I'll do some proper research 1st... Thanks again
08-17-2012, 04:56 PM
08-17-2012, 04:59 PM
08-17-2012, 08:31 PM
hey i told him it was an OK idea, and even how to do it right....but even he knows he needs to research this more, he just said it himself. This thread was not harsh at all....there are a few threads in here we joke around on, but not necessarily at the expense of the OP...just joke on the subject they bring up and/or tell them to go back to the drawing board and research more.
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