Prohormone vs. Injectable
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07-28-2012 01:20 PM
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Prohormone vs. Injectable
It's been 2 years since I did my one and only cycle with Hdrol. I gained a little from it but strength went through the roof, so much so that I injured my shoulder doing incline dumbbell presses.
The downfall from Hdrol or any pro hormone is the harm it can cause on your liver. Even though Hdrol is considered tame on the liver, it took about 6 months for my liver values get back in the normal range. I did Nolva as pct, but maybe it was bunk?!
My question is that I'm really getting back into working out again seriously, and although I'm not running any cycle now, maybe in 3 months I will.
What are the pro/cons of running an injectable instead this time? Obviously more potent, but having to mess with pinning is a downfall, but are the side effects and long term side effects better or worse with one over the other?
What's everyone's thoughts on here, ph or aas?
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07-28-2012 01:29 PM
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Here's an example
PH=a car from the fast and furious...yes it's fancy and fast
Injectable AAS=NASCAR
Both will be better then your average 1992 Honda civic (Creatine) but they are a little different in terms of gains and time on as well
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07-28-2012 01:31 PM
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I'm no expert, but injecting is generally considered to be safer and more effective.
Cons are having to deal with controlled substances.
I got into designer steroids (prohormones) mainly because I couldn't source injectables.
I'm working on sourcing them, but the fact that they're controlled substances, plus the issue of potentially be scammed, sent bunk gear etc is nerve-wracking to say the least.
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07-28-2012 01:47 PM
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btw serms like nolva can adversely affect liver function. just something to be aware of.
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07-28-2012 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
howwedo107
Here's an example
PH=a car from the fast and furious...yes it's fancy and fast
Injectable AAS=NASCAR
Both will be better then your average 1992 Honda civic (Creatine) but they are a little different in terms of gains and time on as well
We can also look at it this way to :-)
PH = A bike with training wheels.
Injectable = A bike without training wheels.
Both are good choices any way you look at it, it just trying to find a trusted source for AAS is one main reason why people don't inject.
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07-28-2012 03:52 PM
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pH/DS: legal
AAS: illegal
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07-28-2012 03:53 PM
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Is aas better in terms of liver/kidney protection, or worse?
I'm more concerned with long term safety. I know hgh has concerns with cancer growth if you have any cancer cells, so I'm too scared to touch that stuff.
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07-28-2012 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Leftyz
Is aas better in terms of liver/kidney protection, or worse?
I'm more concerned with long term safety. I know hgh has concerns with cancer growth if you have any cancer cells, so I'm too scared to touch that stuff.
Most aas (injectables, not orals) are better for the liver then phs. No first pass = no liver stress
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07-28-2012 04:18 PM
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Injectables (test E, Test Prop, etc.) will prevent side effects of lethargy, and loss of libido on cycle which can happen with oral DS/PH as stabdalones. Injectables tend to produce more modest and permanent gains, where as DS/PH can vary....
Pro-hormones/Designer Steroids= Pellet Rifle
Injectables/Oils= 50 caliber rifle
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07-28-2012 04:54 PM
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OK MORONS, injectables can be less strong or stronger then oral steroids. These gay comparisons of cars and bikes are retarded, methylated masteron(SD) is way more anabolic than testosterone, but testosterone is more androgenic thean SD. They are all just different. If u want to run longer cycles, obviously use injectables because of liver stress from methylation. BUt to say that all injectables are better then all oral steroids is just wrong and stupid
Originally Posted by
Lacrossedude6
Injectables (test E, Test Prop, etc.) will prevent side effects of lethargy, and loss of libido on cycle which can happen with oral DS/PH as stabdalones. Injectables tend to produce more modest and permanent gains, where as DS/PH can vary....
Pro-hormones/Designer Steroids= Pellet Rifle
Injectables/Oils= 50 caliber rifle
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07-28-2012 04:57 PM
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ur saying dianabol superdrol anadrol 50 are pellet guns? These are some of the strongest steroids ever created
Originally Posted by
Lacrossedude6
Injectables (test E, Test Prop, etc.) will prevent side effects of lethargy, and loss of libido on cycle which can happen with oral DS/PH as stabdalones. Injectables tend to produce more modest and permanent gains, where as DS/PH can vary....
Pro-hormones/Designer Steroids= Pellet Rifle
Injectables/Oils= 50 caliber rifle
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07-28-2012 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker89
OK MORONS, injectables can be less strong or stronger then oral steroids. These gay comparisons of cars and bikes are retarded, methylated masteron(SD) is way more anabolic than testosterone, but testosterone is more androgenic thean SD. They are all just different. If u want to run longer cycles, obviously use injectables because of liver stress from methylation. BUt to say that all injectables are better then all oral steroids is just wrong and stupid
Wich oral is better then let's say injectable testosteron?
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07-28-2012 05:22 PM
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Superdrol is more anabolic. Methyl testosterone anadrol 50
Originally Posted by
foxpharma
Wich oral is better then let's say injectable testosteron?
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07-28-2012 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker89
Superdrol is more anabolic. Methyl testosterone anadrol 50
I didn't ask wich is more anabolic. There are more aspects then just how anabolic a substance is. Under all aspects not one single oral will reach injectable testosteron.
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07-28-2012 05:27 PM
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how about cheque drops idiot
Originally Posted by
foxpharma
I didn't ask wich is more anabolic. There are more aspects then just how anabolic a substance is. Under all aspects not one single oral will reach injectable testosteron.
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07-28-2012 05:27 PM
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what exactly does stronger mean then if not anabolic or androgenic??????????????????
Originally Posted by
foxpharma
I didn't ask wich is more anabolic. There are more aspects then just how anabolic a substance is. Under all aspects not one single oral will reach injectable testosteron.
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07-28-2012 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker89
ur saying dianabol superdrol anadrol 50 are pellet guns? These are some of the strongest steroids ever created
If you would have read my entire post I was comparing today's legal Ph/DS with injectables. NOT ORAL Steroids which is Turinabol, Dianabol, Anadrol, etc. Of course these are very powerful Steroids.
And last time i cheched methyl (superdrol and all it's clones) is illegal now, I was giving this guy a little enlightening on the matter of what you are going to get with today's true LEGAL DS/PH a compared to injections..... This is what he asked for advice on
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07-28-2012 05:31 PM
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we are on the same page dude my bad
Originally Posted by
Lacrossedude6
If you would have read my entire post I was comparing today's legal Ph/DS with injectables. NOT ORAL Steroids which is Turinabol, Dianabol, Anadrol, etc. Of course these are very powerful Steroids.
And last time i cheched methyl (superdrol and all it's clones) is illegal now, I was giving this guy a little enlightening on the matter of what you are going to get with today's true LEGAL DS/PH a compared to injections..... This is what he asked for advice on
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07-28-2012 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
Lacrossedude6
And last time i cheched methyl (superdrol and all it's clones) is illegal now
Maybe the original compound called "superdrol" is illegal, but aren't its clones still widely and legally available???
Maybe I'm missing something, but superdrol clones are easy to buy right now.
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07-28-2012 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by R1187
Maybe the original compound called "superdrol" is illegal, but aren't its clones still widely and legally available???
Maybe I'm missing something, but superdrol clones are easy to buy right now.
Indeed they are still widely available through numerous outlets and sources, yes they are easy to buy, I ordered some off of amazon.com last month. But the FDA did ban all the clones, but they are not considered to be scheduled substances yet. If that makes sense....
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