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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    Wow... Just Wow. Its idiots like the OP here that give 'roids a bad name in the media. All that is really needed here is a good dose of chlorine in the gene pool.
    Looks at your avi.


    Nice belly. How many months prego?


    Your opinion is invalid. I will only listen to those who have superior genetics.


    You are the idiot. You are no where near natural potential to even begin using steroids. Learn to diet first,because you look like **** after years of steroids use. Youve been here since what..2005?



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    You are an idiot LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    You are an idiot LMAO

    At least I know what Im doing

    Take some advice from me and go on TRT. Why would you even take orals at 48 FFS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    By the way. If Androhard is a liver killer, that will put you in a hospital if stacked with a methyl, can you explain why you didnt have issue after you ran epi and androhard together? Or did you lie about this cycle?



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    The only thing weaker than your argument is your liver.
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    You're attacking people by their looks which is irrelevant to your original argument. You just said PP products are for beginners... Last time I checked you took them. Yeah I won't get my card because I don't compete. And wait WHAT I can't take orals like skittles? Thought anavar was good for that. My vascular quote was from family guy I'm not being serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx

    At least I know what Im doing
    I don't agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy
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    Yes!!! I'd rep if I wasn't on my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    I made you look like a fool. Your friend coolacize got busted lying then you immediately deleted the thread and banned me. It shows how powerless you were. Then you get a bunch of your guys that most likely work in the company to come and post in here calling me a idiot. You cant even provide with simple bloodwork that was done in beta testing. YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT YOUR PRODUCT IS NON LIVER TOXIC.My blood test clearly shows i have liver disfuction.I wasn't argueing-a bunch of idiots that worship you kept attacking me. I came in there warn people of combining orals. A few people were actually interested in that thread. Of course you have your typical juicing ****tards(coolacize) that think the body is immune to steroids and it'll never cause side effects.

    How exactly did you make him look like a fool? He punked the hell out of you a few posts from the end by throwing all the facts up there and you were still in denial.

    I'm still failing to see where you busted me in any lie. My cycle history is clearly laid out for all to see at the beginning of this thread and at the end of the other thread.

    Speaking of lies: The thread was not deleted... it was closed after 10 pages of arguing with someone who refuses to listen to reason. I posted a link on here so everyone who felt like taking the time to read it, and all your nonsense, could go and see the truth for themselves.

    I never said that anybody was "immune to steroids and it'll never cause side effects". What I did say was that AndroHard did/does not destroy your liver like you keep trying to say it did.



    You closed the thread because you failed to provide me with information that your products are non-liver toxic. I was clearly winning the arguement. It doesnt help that you bring your phaggy PP co-workers here on the boards to side and agree with you. They were at least 2-5 people that was just interested in my case.

    You weren't winning anything. Some showed concern for your situation, but nobody voiced anything about believing your BS. You are delusional and paranoid.


    Dont be stupid. DOnt listen to this guy. He is a ****ing idiot and has no idea how to cycle. Look at his cycle historyNEVER RUN ORALS ALONE. You will lose most your gains post cycle..Always use a good amount of test running cycles. Think about this.. You are taking steroids. Why would you not want to do it the right way?

    It was sarcasm, genius. Hundreds of guys would disagree with not being able to maintain gains post cycle on Andro only cycles. Not everyone is willing to break the law to build muscle, so Test is not an option for all.



    Yes I know what injectables are. I know how my body reacts to certain chemicals. When I suggested using injectables I meant to say use test only. From my experience I had the least sides and most gains from using test alone.

    Yeah woman like vascular men. But they dont like the super-vascular and veiny looks like bodybuilders have. This is just a stupid self image problem most of us have.Ive always been naturally lean,I never had this problem. I have abs even when im bulking..Vascularity comes down to genetics and diet. So using orals to bring out our vascularity is unnecessary unless you plan on competing. Your vascularity is not going to get you ***** on the beach by walking with your shirt off. It doesnt matter how vascular you are-if your face is ugly theres nothing you can do about it. I doubt %99.9 of you will ever get your IFBB card,so save some money and stay away from orals..Your liver will love you for it.

    Primordial Performance is the perfect marketing company for newbie recreational gym rats. They produce products like andro "lean,hard,mass" Which is all bull****. No one should be taking oral steroids by itself. Most of the guys taking these products should not even be taking steroids to begin with-at least thats what I think after reading most of the logs on pp forums.Most seem out of shape,doesnt even look like they lift or have proper nutrition.


    Im not surprised you guys are flaming me. Most of you think you are invisible and nothing will happen to you. I was once like this. I followed typical cycle protocols .I never went overboard. I thought I could use steroids in a safe manner.But there is no safe manner. You may not have any side effects now . If people continue to use toxic orals like epi,super,dbol,var,pp products and other desiger steroids- I guarantee you that you will go through problems with your body sometime in your life.
    I don't think I'm invisible or invincible either for that matter. If you really followed proper protocol - then how is it you have all these cycles under your belt at age 24? Other responses in bold, above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
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    The only thing weaker than your argument is your liver.

    Well. I ran Androhard v2 last summer. Androhardv3 is double the potency of V2. I never used either of em it at maximum dosage. I ran at 4 pills a day. I have no idea to be honest. Maybe it was a accumulative damage over that years. I also didnt add in the AH till I was almost done with the EPI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    Well. I ran Androhard v2 last summer. Androhardv3 is double the potency of V2. I never used either of em it at maximum dosage. I ran at 4 pills a day. I have no idea to be honest. Maybe it was a accumulative damage over that years. I also didnt add in the AH till I was almost done with the EPI.
    Burden of proof is on to show the dangers of AH. You're the one making the claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    Well. I ran Androhard v2 last summer. Androhardv3 is double the potency of V2. I never used either of em it at maximum dosage. I ran at 4 pills a day. I have no idea to be honest. Maybe it was a accumulative damage over that years. I also didnt add in the AH till I was almost done with the EPI.
    That is the smartest thing you've said yet!
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    But, Epi is considered to be significantly more liver toxic than Anavar.

    So the combination with AndroHard would have been really bad, even if for a short time, if AH was liver toxic.

    You previously have stated that maybe the grapefruit juice is the cause (since it is common knowledge that the actives in hard are not liver toxic).

    Well, v2 had a similar amount of enzyme inhibition as found in v3. So the effects should have been similar, yet they were not.

    How many more points do you need? Are you really this ignorant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Burden of proof is on to show the dangers of AH. You're the one making the claim.

    So what? I took superdrol and epi in the past-with perfect liver values post cycle. Is that burden of proof that superdrol/epi is non liver toxic???
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    So what? I took superdrol and epi in the past-with perfect liver values post cycle. Is that burden of proof that superdrol/epi is non liver toxic???
    You inability to make a valid argument baffles me. How'd the follow up test for your most bloods come out or did you flake out on getting them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    But, Epi is considered to be significantly more liver toxic than Anavar.

    So the combination with AndroHard would have been really bad, even if for a short time, if AH was liver toxic.

    You previously have stated that maybe the grapefruit juice is the cause (since it is common knowledge that the actives in hard are not liver toxic).

    Well, v2 had a similar amount of enzyme inhibition as found in v3. So the effects should have been similar, yet they were not.

    How many more points do you need? Are you really this ignorant?

    Actually I never made his statement until you guys brought it up. IMO its total bull**** marketing technique used to sell this product.Just like the bull**** "first by-pass liver".. LMAO

    I dont need any points. Your product is prone to cause liver damage and thats that. You should start looking for a new job soon,dont you know that selling steroids is illegal and considered a felony? Goodbye PP. You shouldve learned a lesson from bodybuilding.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    Not a good idea.Speaking from experience.. Stay away from SD.
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    So what? I took superdrol and epi in the past-with perfect liver values post cycle. Is that burden of proof that superdrol/epi is non liver toxic???
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    You do realize this is DHEA right?

    Since you are finally addressing my statements. Can you comment on how you plan to make this a legal issue, (as you threatened me in PM and now again in this thread), without addressing the fact that you were on Anavar, which, you know, just happens to be a fcking FELONY to possess?

    Man, I usually end these arguments with a sarcastic tone comment about how I wish the best for you in life, but I really wish for the worst for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    You do realize this is DHEA right?

    Since you are finally addressing my statements. Can you comment on how you plan to make this a legal issue, (as you threatened me in PM and now again in this thread), without addressing the fact that you were on Anavar, which, you know, just happens to be a fcking FELONY to possess?

    Man, I usually end these arguments with a sarcastic tone comment about how I wish the best for you in life, but I really wish for the worst for you.
    Wasn't there some Test in there too that could have been 'dirty'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolazice View Post
    Wasn't there some Test in there too that could have been 'dirty'?
    No way, someone who uses injectables yet doesn't know what "UGL" means he certainly has only the best sources and uses HG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    Actually I never made his statement until you guys brought it up. IMO its total bull**** marketing technique used to sell this product.Just like the bull**** "first by-pass liver".. LMAO

    I dont need any points. Your product is prone to cause liver damage and thats that. You should start looking for a new job soon,dont you know that selling steroids is illegal and considered a felony? Goodbye PP. You shouldve learned a lesson from bodybuilding.com.
    WHAT A FKN IDIOT! (with due respect)

    making fake claims about a company is a felony, you are a shame, if you keep taking steroids you will need a liver transplant... wait a second you have hep B D: ... good bye turks... ive learned a lesson at anabolicminds.... to keep an eye on my girlfriend (and what she does with another man) or id end up with hep b and blaming GF juice. IMO if you poped cialis instead of steroids, you wouldnt have hep b. just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    No way, someone who uses injectables yet doesn't know what "UGL" means he certainly has only the best sources and uses HG.
    My bad!










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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    You do realize this is DHEA right?

    Since you are finally addressing my statements. Can you comment on how you plan to make this a legal issue, (as you threatened me in PM and now again in this thread), without addressing the fact that you were on Anavar, which, you know, just happens to be a fcking FELONY to possess?

    Does it matter what I was on or what I took for the legal case? What matters is that there is a company out there selling "safe,non-toxic" sports enhancement supplements disguised as steroids.Which is totally illegal and considered a felony. It could cause great health dangers to many individuals. Including kids. Im sure no parent wants their kid buying a supplement online that shuts down his natural test production,shrinks his ball and makes his hair fall out.So the law will for sure do something about it. I make great money and would have problem having the funds to file such a suite against a company who most likely copies original oral steroids and uses them in their own formula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenTheEagle View Post
    WHAT A FKN IDIOT!

    making fake claims about a company is a felony, you are a shame, if you keep taking steroids you will need a liver transplant... wait a second you have hep B D: ... good bye turks... ive learned a lesson at anabolicminds.... to keep an eye on my girlfriend (and what she does with another man) or id end up with hep b and blaming GF juice. IMO if you poped cialis instead of steroids, you wouldnt have hep b. just sayin
    Why you mad bro? I dont have hep b you ****ing retard.


    Fake claims? What fake claims? The fact that my liver is ****ed up ?

    Totally a fake claim. Those 4 black pills surely had nothing to do with my liver damage. They magically pass through the liver without causing any damage
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    Does it matter what I was on or what I took for the legal case? What matters is that there is a company out there selling "safe,non-toxic" sports enhancement supplements disguised as steroids.Which is totally illegal and considered a felony. It could cause great health dangers to many individuals. Including kids. Im sure no parent wants their kid buying a supplement online that shuts down his natural test production,shrinks his ball and makes his hair fall out.So the law will for sure do something about it. I make great money and would have problem having the funds to file such a suite against a company who most likely copies original oral steroids and uses them in their own formula.
    Now you're claiming that they're spiked with illicit AAS...seriously, kid...just stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    Why you mad bro? I dont have hep b you ****ing retard.


    Fake claims? What fake claims? The fact that my liver is ****ed up ?

    Totally a fake claim. Those 4 black pills surely had nothing to do with my liver damage. They magically pass through the liver without causing any damage
    It was your doctor that said it looked like you had Hepatitis B and that is transferred through blood and bodily fluids. Did you get new information from him that you aren't posting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    Why you mad bro? I dont have hep b you ****ing retard.


    Fake claims? What fake claims? The fact that my liver is ****ed up ?

    Totally a fake claim. Those 4 black pills surely had nothing to do with my liver damage. They magically pass through the liver without causing any damage
    This is what happened Einstein:

    You took an effective and safe supplement (with tons of studies to back it up, and regulated by safe standards_ along with a METHYLATED steroid, a.k.a liver toxic (most likely from an underground lab, probably made at some punk sink with no knowledge in chemistry) only God knows what was in each tablet you sipped, probably even rat poison for more flavor .... you played poker with your health and now your liver is fkd up... YOU TOOK AN UGL STEROID!... and no i am not mad at the end of the game is your liver and not mine, i dont even know you... now heres a tip, you have 2 options:

    if you already look like bart simpson (called icterisia) wich is yellowing of the skin due to liver toxicity, you have 2 choices:

    go to the hospital ASAP and stop spreading stupid claims at the forum

    or wait untill halloween so you can make a custume of your fav simpron character and you will save money on yellow paint.... take advantage of the situation, but that will be stupid, id choose number 1
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    Dude, no wonder your girl is messing around and passing you viruses. You have serious issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    Does it matter what I was on or what I took for the legal case? What matters is that there is a company out there selling "safe,non-toxic" sports enhancement supplements disguised as steroids.Which is totally illegal and considered a felony. It could cause great health dangers to many individuals. Including kids. Im sure no parent wants their kid buying a supplement online that shuts down his natural test production,shrinks his ball and makes his hair fall out.So the law will for sure do something about it. I make great money and would have problem having the funds to file such a suite against a company who most likely copies original oral steroids and uses them in their own formula.
    Cigarettes and alcohol exist. And are legal. Point = invalid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Now you're claiming that they're spiked with illicit AAS...seriously, kid...just stop.

    Did you take the compound to the lab to get it tested? Do you really know what is in there? How do you know that AH does not have proviron in it?


    yeah I thought so-You dont.. You read **** and believe it. Just like the problem with our society today. They watch the news and immediately they are %100 sure they are being told the truth ,

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolazice View Post
    It was your doctor that said it looked like you had Hepatitis B and that is transferred through blood and bodily fluids. Did you get new information from him that you aren't posting?
    I got my blood drawn for the 3rd time on Wednesday. Its not %100 sure yet. They are doing further testing. I will know after this testing for sure. He said he'll call me within a week.

    Quote Originally Posted by KenTheEagle View Post
    This is what happened Einstein:

    You took an effective and safe supplement (with tons of studies to back it up, and regulated by safe standards_ along with a METHYLATED steroid, a.k.a liver toxic (most likely from an underground lab, probably made at some punk sink with no knowledge in chemistry) only God knows what was in each tablet you sipped, probably even rat poison for more flavor .... you played poker with your health and now your liver is fkd up... YOU TOOK AN UGL STEROID!... and no i am not mad at the end of the game is your liver and not mine, i dont even know you... now heres a tip, you have 2 options:

    if you already look like bart simpson (called icterisia) wich is yellowing of the skin due to liver toxicity, you have 2 choices:

    go to the hospital ASAP and stop spreading stupid claims at the forum

    or wait untill halloween so you can make a custume of your fav simpron character and you will save money on yellow paint.... take advantage of the situation, but that will be stupid, id choose number 1
    Dude chill . Did you even read that whole thread?. Why do they say its safely stackable with any other steroid when Im being blamed here for stacking it with anavar ? Everyone knows var is most mild oral out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Dude, no wonder your girl is messing around and passing you viruses. You have serious issues.

    Yea,the products your company makes caused these issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    Did you take the compound to the lab to get it tested? Do you really know what is in there? How do you know that AH does not have proviron in it?
    yeah I thought so-You dont.. You read **** and believe it. Just like the problem with our society today. They watch the news and immediately they are %100 sure they are being told the truth
    You seriously have no idea what the phrase "burden of proof" means, do you? You're the jackass making a claim, which could easily get you into legal trouble (irony...) with nothing to back up your claim. Also, PP is known to have stringent QC and are also cGMP. If you don't know what that is, then I suggest you look them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    I got my blood drawn for the 3rd time on Wednesday. Its not %100 sure yet. They are doing further testing. I will know after this testing for sure. He said he'll call me within a week.
    Why are you fighting this so hard when you don't even know for a fact what is causing your liver issues? For all you know - you could be so far off base with your absurd claims. You don't even have a diagnosis yet, let alone one shred of proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    Does it matter what I was on or what I took for the legal case? What matters is that there is a company out there selling "safe,non-toxic" sports enhancement supplements disguised as steroids.Which is totally illegal and considered a felony. It could cause great health dangers to many individuals. Including kids. Im sure no parent wants their kid buying a supplement online that shuts down his natural test production,shrinks his ball and makes his hair fall out.So the law will for sure do something about it. I make great money and would have problem having the funds to file such a suite against a company who most likely copies original oral steroids and uses them in their own formula.
    Do you really think you will look any less stupid in court than you do on either AM or PP's forum? Combined, your thread on PP and here at AM have gotten over 4500 views. How many people have agreed with your claim out of nearly 5000 people? None so far. You think you can go to court and get 12 jurors to agree with you when you can't even get 1 person out of thousands to agree with you? Sounds like the odds are in your favor.

    Furthermore, do you think that a lawyer won't laugh you out of his office when he starts looking into the research himself? DHEA is not illegal to sell as a supplement, PP product are properly labeled including risks and side effects possible, and an age restriction is on the label. You can't expect to sue another company, who has gone out of their way to properly label and explain a product, for the poor results of your own actions.

    If anything, you should be the one worried about being sued by PP for slander/libel for publicly spreading lies about the contents of PP's products, not to mention alleging criminal activity on their part. Seriously, you should be worried about the legal repurcussions of making such severe accussations.

    Throughout all this, you show an extreme aversion to the truth; you are in denial as much as an alchoholic or meth user denies they need help. All you have is petty anger towards those who have been rational towards you. You may or may not be 24 years old, but you act like a 5 year old. Grow up, grow a pair if you still can, and take responsibility for your own actions instead of blaming other's for your idiocy.
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    yeah i read the whole thread turkx... and you even talked about me (i am that Ippy guy). i agree with you, anavar is mild but i doubt you took a pharmaceutical grade, you took an underground lab anavar (atleast thats what i read)... when you take an underground lab you should know that most UGLs are not regulated so you can have an overdosed-underdosed, fake (even another compound), a mix with other chemicals, and the list goes on. you dont know if that anavar was made in a clean enviorment... but yet you took it, use your logic man.... you took an underground steroid, and you blame on a decent company with zero issues (besides your complain)... yet, you are not sure if you have hep b or anything like that, and before you got your results you start making fake claims?. why dont you blame on your anavar wich you dont even know if it was mislabeled (probably they put superdrol in it or rat poison, no one knows).

    another note, this is not your first cycle, and by the way you talk, it seems you abused them in the past, so probably you were dragging liver problems without even knowing, and this undergroun and unclean änavar fkd you up.

    we dont know if you are a heavy drinker or not.

    you never mentioned whats your liver support supps anytime you run an oral cycle.

    but you are here, waiting for the results to come, blaming a legit company, that i am pretty sure that if you were a lil bit more respectful, youd have more validation and they could actually help you (they tried to help you) but you keep this idiocy, and now everyone here thinks you are an idiot.

    your post is so contradictory, you blame ALL ORALS, then you blame only on androhard, and then you mentioned hep B, i even wonder if you work for another company and you just want to bring this company down. be a man and act like an adult, you played the cards now pay the chips. just my .02 cents
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    wow, that's all i can say...
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    How on Earth did I miss this awesome thread!?!

    I don't know if I want to cry for the huge waste of time or laugh out loud at obnoxious interweb claims...

    PP's products are sound. Their reps are some of the most consistent and courtious I've dealt with over the years.

    ...

    And the Hep B? That's not from orals, that all about body fluid.

    ...

    Wrap up the blood work with the good doctor and then try and figure things out before you go completely off the deep end. There may be more to come with the additional blood tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenTheEagle View Post
    yeah i read the whole thread turkx... and you even talked about me (i am that Ippy guy). i agree with you, anavar is mild but i doubt you took a pharmaceutical grade, you took an underground lab anavar (atleast thats what i read)... when you take an underground lab you should know that most UGLs are not regulated so you can have an overdosed-underdosed, fake (even another compound), a mix with other chemicals, and the list goes on. you dont know if that anavar was made in a clean enviorment... but yet you took it, use your logic man.... you took an underground steroid, and you blame on a decent company with zero issues (besides your complain)... yet, you are not sure if you have hep b or anything like that, and before you got your results you start making fake claims?. why dont you blame on your anavar wich you dont even know if it was mislabeled (probably they put superdrol in it or rat poison, no one knows).

    another note, this is not your first cycle, and by the way you talk, it seems you abused them in the past, so probably you were dragging liver problems without even knowing, and this undergroun and unclean änavar fkd you up.

    we dont know if you are a heavy drinker or not.

    you never mentioned whats your liver support supps anytime you run an oral cycle.

    but you are here, waiting for the results to come, blaming a legit company, that i am pretty sure that if you were a lil bit more respectful, youd have more validation and they could actually help you (they tried to help you) but you keep this idiocy, and now everyone here thinks you are an idiot.

    your post is so contradictory, you blame ALL ORALS, then you blame only on androhard, and then you mentioned hep B, i even wonder if you work for another company and you just want to bring this company down. be a man and act like an adult, you played the cards now pay the chips. just my .02 cents

    Its funny most of you are attacking the anavar. Who cares what was in there.It couldve been winny or epi.Ive done both before.Its not like you guys dont buy from "UGLs" and stack it with PP products. Most of you are so ****ing delusional and buy orals and stack them back to back. Thats why I came to warn you guys.It could happen to anyone. Everyone is a freakin juicehead here and have self image issues. They read and read about roids. When a guy comes around the corner attacking the supplement-telling people to stay away from it I get alot of negativity. You know why? because most of you are ****ing stubborn.

    I came here for a reason.

    1.Dont stack ANY androseries with any OTHER orals.
    2. Dont take overpriced designer steroids that harm your liver.
    3. Stick to the real thing if you want to get big.
    4. Most people use orals thinking it will "cut" them or give them a "dry" look. In reality,no one gives a **** about how you look. Unless you compete stay away from it.Use it on your own risk.


    Quote Originally Posted by saludable24 View Post
    Do you really think you will look any less stupid in court than you do on either AM or PP's forum? Combined, your thread on PP and here at AM have gotten over 4500 views. How many people have agreed with your claim out of nearly 5000 people? None so far. You think you can go to court and get 12 jurors to agree with you when you can't even get 1 person out of thousands to agree with you? Sounds like the odds are in your favor.

    Furthermore, do you think that a lawyer won't laugh you out of his office when he starts looking into the research himself? DHEA is not illegal to sell as a supplement, PP product are properly labeled including risks and side effects possible, and an age restriction is on the label. You can't expect to sue another company, who has gone out of their way to properly label and explain a product, for the poor results of your own actions.

    If anything, you should be the one worried about being sued by PP for slander/libel for publicly spreading lies about the contents of PP's products, not to mention alleging criminal activity on their part. Seriously, you should be worried about the legal repurcussions of making such severe accussations.

    Throughout all this, you show an extreme aversion to the truth; you are in denial as much as an alchoholic or meth user denies they need help. All you have is petty anger towards those who have been rational towards you. You may or may not be 24 years old, but you act like a 5 year old. Grow up, grow a pair if you still can, and take responsibility for your own actions instead of blaming other's for your idiocy.
    @ at "DHEA" being safe supp. Its still a steroid retard. Whether if its hgh,test,dhea,isulin,cortisol. ITS A ****ING STEROID. Last time I checked they are illegal to sell. Look at what happened to bodybuilding.com.




    Quote Originally Posted by Coolazice View Post
    Why are you fighting this so hard when you don't even know for a fact what is causing your liver issues? For all you know - you could be so far off base with your absurd claims. You don't even have a diagnosis yet, let alone one shred of proof.
    My poor? stack AH+other orals=****ed up liver. Last time I checked-they advise you to stack their supps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You seriously have no idea what the phrase "burden of proof" means, do you? You're the jackass making a claim, which could easily get you into legal trouble (irony...) with nothing to back up your claim. Also, PP is known to have stringent QC and are also cGMP. If you don't know what that is, then I suggest you look them up.
    Legal selling steroids online? Oh ok
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    You already ran PP products with other orals before and were perfectly fine and you actually recommended the stack to someone else because you were so satisfied with it as H2S pointed out. You're calling us the delusional ones. It also doesn't matter if someone is selling "steroids" if the ingredients in them are LEGAL. It's EXACTLY the same as selling any other supplements until they're banned.
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    This reminds me of the time I was on a cycle of test...

    It was a crazy night. I must have don't at least an 8 ball of white to myself just to follow it up with about 150mg of oxy. I went to the hospital because my heart stopped.

    The doctor blamed the juice ;^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    @ at "DHEA" being safe supp. Its still a steroid retard. Whether if its hgh,test,dhea,isulin,cortisol. ITS A ****ING STEROID. Last time I checked they are illegal to sell. Look at what happened to bodybuilding.com....

    Legal selling steroids online? Oh ok
    DHEA is not illegal to sell. You can run down to virtually any drugstore, grocery store or 'super store' and pick up some up without a prescription. It is a naturally occurring hormone in the body and deemed legal and safe to sell OTC to the general public.


    Quote Originally Posted by tuRkx View Post
    My poor? stack AH+other orals=****ed up liver. Last time I checked-they advise you to stack their supps.
    This not even a coherent sentence.

    Yes, they say that their AndroSeries are stackable with each other.... NOT ILLEGAL PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS.
  

  
 

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