Clomid Superdrol PCT didn't work, no libido

[xams2387]

Okay so I am currently on my 2nd PCT for a heavy and dumb cycle. The cycle was started the first of March and went as follows:
Stanodrol 800mg WEEK 1-8
Superdrol 20/20/30/30 WEEK 5-8
Dzine 30 WEEK 5-7
M14ADD 90 mg WEEK 5-8

So i gained alot of muscle, but thats not what I care about at this point. I finished up the cycle towards the end of April and did a 3 week Clomid PCT at 150/100/50. I also took activate extreme, unleashed, and then after those 2, I finished up with Isa Test. My libido was next to nothing all of the cycle and through PCT and then after PCT. After the PCT I just took OTC products to help restart test but nothing worked. So, now i am starting week 4 of a Clomid/Torem 100/50/25/25 120/90/90/90 PCT (2nd PCT) to help restore libido and natty test. My libido is still shot but i wake up with morning wood most days now, and was finally able to get it up for sex for a few days last week. My nuts have also gotten bigger but no sensitivity downstairs and no drive or urge to have sex. I basically had to fake the pleasure. I also am finishing up another bottle of Isa Test, Maca, Libido XY, Formadrol Xtreme, and Reversitol V2. I have Activate Xtreme and Unleashed arriving in the mail in the next few days. I have also thrown in a little prami .5mg EOD and adex .25mg EOD.

Basically what I am asking is whether or not my PCT looks good, what you guys think I should be doing and continue to do. I will most likely never run another cycle. This was my 2nd cycle-1st was last September Hdrol/Epi 5 weeks and used Reversitol v2 and Formadrol Xtreme and recovered towards the end of PCT.

I know it was a dumb cycle but i havent had a drive for atleast 3 months and its worrying me. Am i on the right track? Suggestions?

[murk01]

That's a killer cycle. What were ur gains? I wish I had the answer for u. U might need to have ur blood tested.
It may just be a matter of time

[ITW]

Okay so I am currently on my 2nd PCT for a heavy and dumb cycle. The cycle was started the first of March and went as follows:
Stanodrol 800mg WEEK 1-8
Superdrol 20/20/30/30 WEEK 5-8
Dzine 30 WEEK 5-7
M14ADD 90 mg WEEK 5-8

So i gained alot of muscle, but thats not what I care about at this point. I finished up the cycle towards the end of April and did a 3 week Clomid PCT at 150/100/50. I also took activate extreme, unleashed, and then after those 2, I finished up with Isa Test. My libido was next to nothing all of the cycle and through PCT and then after PCT. After the PCT I just took OTC products to help restart test but nothing worked. So, now i am starting week 4 of a Clomid/Torem 100/50/25/25 120/90/90/90 PCT (2nd PCT) to help restore libido and natty test. My libido is still shot but i wake up with morning wood most days now, and was finally able to get it up for sex for a few days last week. My nuts have also gotten bigger but no sensitivity downstairs and no drive or urge to have sex. I basically had to fake the pleasure. I also am finishing up another bottle of Isa Test, Maca, Libido XY, Formadrol Xtreme, and Reversitol V2. I have Activate Xtreme and Unleashed arriving in the mail in the next few days. I have also thrown in a little prami .5mg EOD and adex .25mg EOD.

Basically what I am asking is whether or not my PCT looks good, what you guys think I should be doing and continue to do. I will most likely never run another cycle. This was my 2nd cycle-1st was last September Hdrol/Epi 5 weeks and used Reversitol v2 and Formadrol Xtreme and recovered towards the end of PCT.

I know it was a dumb cycle but i havent had a drive for atleast 3 months and its worrying me. Am i on the right track? Suggestions?

Give it time man. Everything SHOULD sort out. Just lesson learned that super harsh cycles may not be worth it. Imagine the gains were crazy though...

[xams2387]

Yeah i squatted 445 after only hitting 365, but now im about 395 or 400. Docs seem to always prescribe more clomid so I figured I may just do that. Will my libido be hindered during my PCT of clomid and torem? should I be taking the ADEX?

[ITW]

Yeah i squatted 445 after only hitting 365, but now im about 395 or 400. Docs seem to always prescribe more clomid so I figured I may just do that. Will my libido be hindered during my PCT of clomid and torem? should I be taking the ADEX?

I don't feel comfortable giving advice on a serious matter like this but sometimes I thinks its best to take nothing and let the body try to take over

[ITW]

Also don't you haaaaate the strength losses after cycle :/

[xams2387]

I thought about that. Just letting my body take its own course. Ive just read so much on how a SERM is the fastest way.

[xams2387]

Also don't you haaaaate the strength losses after cycle :/

YES and it sucks more when you have no test to start lifting more again haha.

[ITW]

I go hard on cycle. Usually lifting 5-6 days a weeks with high volume. But as soon as pct starts I switch to 5/3/1 with bb accessory. Gives the body the more rest it needs and sorttt of helps preserve strength gains. Bottomline you'll always be stronger, bigger, more defined on though

[murk01]

I thought about that. Just letting my body take its own course. Ive just read so much on how a SERM is the fastest way.

Serm is more for support untilled recovery.

[xams2387]

Serm is more for support untilled recovery.

Could you rephrase that? I'm not exactly sure what you are saying... are you simply saying that a SERM should be run as opposed to running nothing now? Tomorrow is my 28th day of Torem and 25th day of Clomid BTW.

[csa2179]

Some times it can take 6 months or long for full recovery of libido. Instead of torem u could try raloxifene it can help increase natural test. Not quit as much as novla can but it is still a significant increase. U ran sd in to dzine/1m,4add with no test. And a crap pct. I'd say it's going to take some time. Just keep eating and lifting the boys will be back online when they are ready.

[csa2179]

Cool how's it going torem will make ur balls big. Hope ur junks up and running

[xams2387]

Cool how's it going torem will make ur balls big. Hope ur junks up and running

Haha, well yeah this past week i was able to get it up for sex just by being with a girl, when before i would have to manually stimulate it so thats a great sign. Also balls bigger but not as full as before cycle and morning wood is there as well. Just waiting for that urge to come back. and my motivation to do other things like simple tasks or workout hard isnt there really. Yeah, I've been out of libido for about 4 months now. Do you know if Clomid or Torem has any affect on libido while on them? Ive read that it lowers it, but once a few weeks post PCT have gone by it comes back.

[murk01]

Finish ur current pct cycle.
Ur Libido prob may not be low test. There are other possibilitys. Ur estro can be off.
With out blood work u can't ne certain. U did a long and powerful cycle. Give ur body time to heal and off prescription meds. Have u tried libido boosters? Horny goat
weed and sh!t like that.
Ur dic gets hard so ur not in terrible shape.
I'm not a doc, and no way a pro with this. Hope others chime in. But taking all that other sh!t for long duration will cussed other probs

[xams2387]

Some times it can take 6 months or long for full recovery of libido. Instead of torem u could try raloxifene it can help increase natural test. Not quit as much as novla can but it is still a significant increase. U ran sd in to dzine/1m,4add with no test. And a crap pct. I'd say it's going to take some time. Just keep eating and lifting the boys will be back online when they are ready.

do i need raloxifene if i have clomid and Torem?

[xams2387]

Finish ur current pct cycle.
Ur Libido prob may not be low test. There are other possibilitys. Ur estro can be off.
With out blood work u can't ne certain. U did a long and powerful cycle. Give ur body time to heal and off prescription meds. Have u tried libido boosters? Horny goat
weed and sh!t like that.
Ur dic gets hard so ur not in terrible shape.
I'm not a doc, and no way a pro with this. Hope others chime in. But taking all that other sh!t for long duration will cussed other probs

How much longer should i run the SERMs do you think? I have horny goat weed, Maca is about done, Isa Test but its my last dose today, Trib, Formadrol Xtreme, DAA, and waiting for Activate Xtreme and Unleashed.

[pillsRgood]

Without bloods its really hard for anyone to diagnose you, but my guess is that your estrogen could be crushed, which in turn is destroying your sex drive... Just a thought

[xams2387]

What do you think is crushing my estrogen? the clomid? or the Formadrol Xtreme?

[Lacrossedude6]

Without bloods its really hard for anyone to diagnose you, but my guess is that your estrogen could be crushed, which in turn is destroying your sex drive... Just a thought

^^agreed