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    Clomid Superdrol PCT didn't work, no libido


    Okay so I am currently on my 2nd PCT for a heavy and dumb cycle. The cycle was started the first of March and went as follows:
    Stanodrol 800mg WEEK 1-8
    Superdrol 20/20/30/30 WEEK 5-8
    Dzine 30 WEEK 5-7
    M14ADD 90 mg WEEK 5-8

    So i gained alot of muscle, but thats not what I care about at this point. I finished up the cycle towards the end of April and did a 3 week Clomid PCT at 150/100/50. I also took activate extreme, unleashed, and then after those 2, I finished up with Isa Test. My libido was next to nothing all of the cycle and through PCT and then after PCT. After the PCT I just took OTC products to help restart test but nothing worked. So, now i am starting week 4 of a Clomid/Torem 100/50/25/25 120/90/90/90 PCT (2nd PCT) to help restore libido and natty test. My libido is still shot but i wake up with morning wood most days now, and was finally able to get it up for sex for a few days last week. My nuts have also gotten bigger but no sensitivity downstairs and no drive or urge to have sex. I basically had to fake the pleasure. I also am finishing up another bottle of Isa Test, Maca, Libido XY, Formadrol Xtreme, and Reversitol V2. I have Activate Xtreme and Unleashed arriving in the mail in the next few days. I have also thrown in a little prami .5mg EOD and adex .25mg EOD.

    Basically what I am asking is whether or not my PCT looks good, what you guys think I should be doing and continue to do. I will most likely never run another cycle. This was my 2nd cycle-1st was last September Hdrol/Epi 5 weeks and used Reversitol v2 and Formadrol Xtreme and recovered towards the end of PCT.

    I know it was a dumb cycle but i havent had a drive for atleast 3 months and its worrying me. Am i on the right track? Suggestions?

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    That's a killer cycle. What were ur gains? I wish I had the answer for u. U might need to have ur blood tested.
    It may just be a matter of time
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387
    Okay so I am currently on my 2nd PCT for a heavy and dumb cycle. The cycle was started the first of March and went as follows:
    Stanodrol 800mg WEEK 1-8
    Superdrol 20/20/30/30 WEEK 5-8
    Dzine 30 WEEK 5-7
    M14ADD 90 mg WEEK 5-8

    So i gained alot of muscle, but thats not what I care about at this point. I finished up the cycle towards the end of April and did a 3 week Clomid PCT at 150/100/50. I also took activate extreme, unleashed, and then after those 2, I finished up with Isa Test. My libido was next to nothing all of the cycle and through PCT and then after PCT. After the PCT I just took OTC products to help restart test but nothing worked. So, now i am starting week 4 of a Clomid/Torem 100/50/25/25 120/90/90/90 PCT (2nd PCT) to help restore libido and natty test. My libido is still shot but i wake up with morning wood most days now, and was finally able to get it up for sex for a few days last week. My nuts have also gotten bigger but no sensitivity downstairs and no drive or urge to have sex. I basically had to fake the pleasure. I also am finishing up another bottle of Isa Test, Maca, Libido XY, Formadrol Xtreme, and Reversitol V2. I have Activate Xtreme and Unleashed arriving in the mail in the next few days. I have also thrown in a little prami .5mg EOD and adex .25mg EOD.

    Basically what I am asking is whether or not my PCT looks good, what you guys think I should be doing and continue to do. I will most likely never run another cycle. This was my 2nd cycle-1st was last September Hdrol/Epi 5 weeks and used Reversitol v2 and Formadrol Xtreme and recovered towards the end of PCT.

    I know it was a dumb cycle but i havent had a drive for atleast 3 months and its worrying me. Am i on the right track? Suggestions?
    Give it time man. Everything SHOULD sort out. Just lesson learned that super harsh cycles may not be worth it. Imagine the gains were crazy though...
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    Yeah i squatted 445 after only hitting 365, but now im about 395 or 400. Docs seem to always prescribe more clomid so I figured I may just do that. Will my libido be hindered during my PCT of clomid and torem? should I be taking the ADEX?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387
    Yeah i squatted 445 after only hitting 365, but now im about 395 or 400. Docs seem to always prescribe more clomid so I figured I may just do that. Will my libido be hindered during my PCT of clomid and torem? should I be taking the ADEX?
    I don't feel comfortable giving advice on a serious matter like this but sometimes I thinks its best to take nothing and let the body try to take over
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    Also don't you haaaaate the strength losses after cycle :/
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    I thought about that. Just letting my body take its own course. Ive just read so much on how a SERM is the fastest way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ITW View Post
    Also don't you haaaaate the strength losses after cycle :/
    YES and it sucks more when you have no test to start lifting more again haha.
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    I go hard on cycle. Usually lifting 5-6 days a weeks with high volume. But as soon as pct starts I switch to 5/3/1 with bb accessory. Gives the body the more rest it needs and sorttt of helps preserve strength gains. Bottomline you'll always be stronger, bigger, more defined on though
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387
    I thought about that. Just letting my body take its own course. Ive just read so much on how a SERM is the fastest way.
    Serm is more for support untilled recovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    Serm is more for support untilled recovery.
    Could you rephrase that? I'm not exactly sure what you are saying... are you simply saying that a SERM should be run as opposed to running nothing now? Tomorrow is my 28th day of Torem and 25th day of Clomid BTW.
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    Some times it can take 6 months or long for full recovery of libido. Instead of torem u could try raloxifene it can help increase natural test. Not quit as much as novla can but it is still a significant increase. U ran sd in to dzine/1m,4add with no test. And a crap pct. I'd say it's going to take some time. Just keep eating and lifting the boys will be back online when they are ready.
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    Cool how's it going torem will make ur balls big. Hope ur junks up and running
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Cool how's it going torem will make ur balls big. Hope ur junks up and running
    Haha, well yeah this past week i was able to get it up for sex just by being with a girl, when before i would have to manually stimulate it so thats a great sign. Also balls bigger but not as full as before cycle and morning wood is there as well. Just waiting for that urge to come back. and my motivation to do other things like simple tasks or workout hard isnt there really. Yeah, I've been out of libido for about 4 months now. Do you know if Clomid or Torem has any affect on libido while on them? Ive read that it lowers it, but once a few weeks post PCT have gone by it comes back.
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    Finish ur current pct cycle.
    Ur Libido prob may not be low test. There are other possibilitys. Ur estro can be off.
    With out blood work u can't ne certain. U did a long and powerful cycle. Give ur body time to heal and off prescription meds. Have u tried libido boosters? Horny goat
    weed and sh!t like that.
    Ur dic gets hard so ur not in terrible shape.
    I'm not a doc, and no way a pro with this. Hope others chime in. But taking all that other sh!t for long duration will cussed other probs
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Some times it can take 6 months or long for full recovery of libido. Instead of torem u could try raloxifene it can help increase natural test. Not quit as much as novla can but it is still a significant increase. U ran sd in to dzine/1m,4add with no test. And a crap pct. I'd say it's going to take some time. Just keep eating and lifting the boys will be back online when they are ready.
    do i need raloxifene if i have clomid and Torem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    Finish ur current pct cycle.
    Ur Libido prob may not be low test. There are other possibilitys. Ur estro can be off.
    With out blood work u can't ne certain. U did a long and powerful cycle. Give ur body time to heal and off prescription meds. Have u tried libido boosters? Horny goat
    weed and sh!t like that.
    Ur dic gets hard so ur not in terrible shape.
    I'm not a doc, and no way a pro with this. Hope others chime in. But taking all that other sh!t for long duration will cussed other probs
    How much longer should i run the SERMs do you think? I have horny goat weed, Maca is about done, Isa Test but its my last dose today, Trib, Formadrol Xtreme, DAA, and waiting for Activate Xtreme and Unleashed.
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    Without bloods its really hard for anyone to diagnose you, but my guess is that your estrogen could be crushed, which in turn is destroying your sex drive... Just a thought
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    What do you think is crushing my estrogen? the clomid? or the Formadrol Xtreme?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pillsRgood
    Without bloods its really hard for anyone to diagnose you, but my guess is that your estrogen could be crushed, which in turn is destroying your sex drive... Just a thought
    ^^agreed
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387
    What do you think is crushing my estrogen? the clomid? or the Formadrol Xtreme?
    The clomid, formadrol and torem are lowering your estrogen bro.
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    Have u tried funegreek
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    Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    Have u tried funegreek
    yeah i tried funegreek too. and Divison 1 Test Booster- red bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    The clomid, formadrol and torem are lowering your estrogen bro.
    How much do each of these lower estrogen? I had no idea that happened i thought it just redirected it(SERMs). formadrol obviously blocks some estrogen. Do you think i should stop the SERMs and formadrol and just see what happens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387

    How much do each of these lower estrogen? I had no idea that happened i thought it just redirected it(SERMs). formadrol obviously blocks some estrogen. Do you think i should stop the SERMs and formadrol and just see what happens?
    That's my vote. Or a doc if ur really concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    That's my vote. Or a doc if ur really concerned.
    Do you always run a SERM 4 weeks? When you do finish are your nuts back to normal size, a bit smaller, or gigantic? Mine are almost normal I'd say or normal. Usually on test booster with no PCT or cycle going on they get pretty gigantic hah no homo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387

    Do you always run a SERM 4 weeks? When you do finish are your nuts back to normal size, a bit smaller, or gigantic? Mine are almost normal I'd say or normal. Usually on test booster with no PCT or cycle going on they get pretty gigantic hah no homo.
    Yes serm allways
    Ur response to pct is on individual basis.
    SD alone will shut u down pretty good. If ur dic gets hard when u need it don't worry so much. Chill on the meds
    U ever think it could be part mental?
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    no you dont need ralo if your almost done with your second pct. u need time to let your body normialize. you can get blood work for 50$ that will show you your estro and test, along with other things. but id say as soon as you finish up pct. let your body normallize and get bloods
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    Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    Yes serm allways
    Ur response to pct is on individual basis.
    SD alone will shut u down pretty good. If ur dic gets hard when u need it don't worry so much. Chill on the meds
    U ever think it could be part mental?
    Go on the net whatch porn beat of twice a day.
    It could be mental somewhat, but i honestly dont think about sex and Id rather just sleep ya know? Ill stop the SERMs and see how it is from there i guess.
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    Let ur bod regulate its hormones. My guess is ur estro is shot.
    Eat healthy, keep working out and get plenty of rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    Yes serm allways
    Ur response to pct is on individual basis.
    SD alone will shut u down pretty good. If ur dic gets hard when u need it don't worry so much. Chill on the meds
    U ever think it could be part mental?
    Go on the net whatch porn beat of twice a day.
    this is dead on. back off on the drugs. jerking it can actually increase your test levels. you need to heal and let your body get back to doing its thing naturally
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    That's the ESSS protocol.
    EAT
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    SLEEP
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387

    It could be mental somewhat, but i honestly dont think about sex and Id rather just sleep ya know? Ill stop the SERMs and see how it is from there i guess.
    Hell your prolactin could be high too. You need blood work to know. Id let your body take back over.

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    ESSS can be used on and off cycle.
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    If you do a harsh cycle, a 3 week pct is not adequate for most people. For long/harsh cycles 6 week PCT is not out of the ordinary.

    Without bloodwork all we can suggest is our best guess. If prolactin is up, it will effect libido. If estrogen is crushed, it will effect libido. If your testosterone is down, it will effect libido. If you aren't getting better soon, hit the doc and get a blood hormone panel.
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    I would say to 85% that prolactin is guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxpharma
    I would say to 85% that prolactin is guilty.
    What do u do for prolactin prob
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    Take a dopamin agonist like caberglobin or bromocriptin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxpharma View Post
    I would say to 85% that prolactin is guilty.
    ive been using prami
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    So far Ive done 7 weeks of PCT: 3 right after cycle April 15-May 7ish and now from June 30-today. Clomid both times and Torem also this 2nd time. Do you think I should drop all the supps and wait a few weeks?
  

  
 

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