Clomid Superdrol PCT didn't work, no libido

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Il pm you a source if you actually end up needing them in 4 weeks when you get another blood test also make sure you go to all your endo and other doc appointments. Youll only gain and who knows they might find something completely unrelated. Just go, thank me later
    I want to go. It's not like I'm being forced. I set up the appointments.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    What ginseng do you recommend?
    Get siberian and american.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Oh okay. I thought you said 500 mg of Vit C 3x a day. So I thought 1000 mg once then 500 mg later. Not okay then? My fish oil is 1000mg per Sofitel. Yeah no most messing with hormones for me. It's very hard to flirt with such little energy ya know. I can do it myself for now if that's enough. I will keep doing the things you say such as exercising eating eggs and more meats... I guess I just thought that if my hormone numbers were good I should feel good. I guess there is like a delaying effect phase where you need to quit it all and let yourself reset to its perfect needs and ratios.
    Absolutely. Its not all about the numbers. Takes a while for everything to snap back into the proper ratios.

  4. Is it possible that just taking these supplements could make it worse? Like is there a point where I need to stop everything and just let me body sort itself out?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Absolutely. Its not all about the numbers. Takes a while for everything to snap back into the proper ratios.
    How long does it usually take people from short cycles, normal cycles, long cycles, and my messed up crazy cycle? Once you recover with the numbers, how long does it take some ppl to actually start feeling better and eventually normal?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Get siberian and american.
    both at the same time?

  7. None of the supplements i listed are hormonal will in any negative way affect your recovery. Its up to you tho.
    In terms of recovery, its really hard to say. Some guys can be back in a couple of months others in a couple of years.

  8. I'm pretty shaky, stressed, and worrysome all day I've noticed. Faster heartbeat for no reason. I'm guessing its from worrying about all this and my body overcompensating for not having any energy

  9. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I'm pretty shaky, stressed, and worrysome all day I've noticed. Faster heartbeat for no reason. I'm guessing its from worrying about all this and my body overcompensating for not having any energy
    You have no idea how bad stress is for the body, and thinking about this makes it so much worse. Chances are youll be fine. Stress causes surges in cortisol, i knew youb be stressed, so i recomended vit c to blunt the cortisol to a certain degree

  10. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    You have no idea how bad stress is for the body, and thinking about this makes it so much worse. Chances are youll be fine. Stress causes surges in cortisol, i knew youb be stressed, so i recomended vit c to blunt the cortisol to a certain degree
    Yeah that's why I'm taking the other adaptogens already: Rhodiola, Ashwagandha, and holy basil Cool ill update regularly

  11. I think I'm gonna stop taking everything until I see my doctor and go from there. If I feel any better or worse ill let you know. I honestly feel like my body needs a freakin break

  12. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I think I'm gonna stop taking everything until I see my doctor and go from there. If I feel any better or worse ill let you know. I honestly feel like my body needs a freakin break
    Smartest thing you have said so far. Good luck and keep me updated.

    Ray

  13. Keepin the anxiety down. Just wondered a few things. Why has is been so hard for me to keep weight down? No matter how well I eat and exercise I can't seem to lose weight. I'm about 220 6'3 17%? Before I was like 200 10%

  14. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Keepin the anxiety down. Just wondered a few things. Why has is been so hard for me to keep weight down? No matter how well I eat and exercise I can't seem to lose weight. I'm about 220 6'3 17%? Before I was like 200 10%
    Thats likely a combination of the following: too much comfort eating, lack of aggressive weight training and cardio program, increased stress and subsequent increases in cortisol resulting in weight gain. Im sure your still trying to eat healthy through all this, but those would be my guesses. Whens the last time you had a good workout that you can recall? Also, as you are well aware, as your body tries to naturally restore its hormone balance and bring your hpta back to full steam, there will be transient fluctuations in hormones, this is also a possible cause of weight gain. My advice, get back to training as if you were perfectly normal, which honestly for the most part you are. Then let the magic happen.

  15. I play basketball pretty intense 3 times a week for 2 hours. Sometimes do plyometrics. Okay. Yeah it's like sometimes ill feel decent. Like today I had a random conversation with some guy at the gym in the locker room and usually my anxiety and energy is too dead to do that. But later like right now I'm feelin low. It kinda goes up n down but never goes 100 % especially libido. A big thing now is mental clarity. I can't keep up with social aspects but u know that already. But I had much less anxiety today not worrying about pills

  16. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I play basketball pretty intense 3 times a week for 2 hours. Sometimes do plyometrics. Okay. Yeah it's like sometimes ill feel decent. Like today I had a random conversation with some guy at the gym in the locker room and usually my anxiety and energy is too dead to do that. But later like right now I'm feelin low. It kinda goes up n down but never goes 100 % especially libido. A big thing now is mental clarity. I can't keep up with social aspects but u know that already. But I had much less anxiety today not worrying about pills
    Well theres a start for sure. I honestly find my self that not having to worry about pills when i just stop taking everything ( which i do every now and then is a huge relief). Funny thing is, you exhibit all the symptoms of low test but yet it is very much within the normal range, not optimal, but not horrible either. You also sound to exhibit the symptoms of high estrogen, kinda like what i feel like right now with this damn clomid im taking( in pct myself). Sorry to get off topic but dude, can i just express how much i HATE, ABHORE, and LOATH CLOMID. This isn't my first time with it, but i just hate this ****. Makes me an anxious whiney bitch! Can you explain to me more how this is affecting you socially, how is it exactly doing so? Also, how long ago exactly was this cycle from hell?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Well theres a start for sure. I honestly find my self that not having to worry about pills when i just stop taking everything ( which i do every now and then is a huge relief). Funny thing is, you exhibit all the symptoms of low test but yet it is very much within the normal range, not optimal, but not horrible either. You also sound to exhibit the symptoms of high estrogen, kinda like what i feel like right now with this damn clomid im taking( in pct myself). Sorry to get off topic but dude, can i just express how much i HATE, ABHORE, and LOATH CLOMID. This isn't my first time with it, but i just hate this ****. Makes me an anxious whiney bitch! Can you explain to me more how this is affecting you socially, how is it exactly doing so? Also, how long ago exactly was this cycle from hell?
    Cycle was march 2012 I think I took it for 10 days. Went on vacation for 10 more and didn't bring em or pct. then did it for 3 more weeks. Then pct. Ill do my best to explain the social stuff. I have bad anxiety now. I believe it's all caused from having no test feelings. No natural clean normal everyday life energy. No sex drive. No drive of any kind. Just wanna lay on my couch. No happiness from things I know are fun. Worry and anxiety when I leave the house. No happiness because I know I don't feel normal and am shut down or something. More anxious cause idk when ill feel better. No want to go out because I have no energy. It all kinda compounds itself. But it all stems from having no libido, no energy, physically worn down, fat retention, no confidence, I feel so diva like. I feel self conscious. It's hard to explain man

  18. I had all these feelings in pct an maybe a couple weeks after my first cycle. Also when I went on Letro. So I know it's shut down symptoms. Just last time it didn't last so long, I didn't worry as much because I didn't know that it was shutdown and freak out like wow am I ever gonna feel better. I just thought I was tired and I was depressed. But as soon as it was there, it was gone an I felt even better than before. I could get any girl anywhere I went. And I did. I don't have the confidence or happy mood to get it done now because I done have libido, energy, like normal test driven energy, I don't have a test driven mind and attitude, and I don't have an acute mind- my mind feels overworked. These are pretty common pct symptoms. Just have been going on for so long it's bad.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Cycle was march 2012 I think I took it for 10 days. Went on vacation for 10 more and didn't bring em or pct. then did it for 3 more weeks. Then pct. Ill do my best to explain the social stuff. I have bad anxiety now. I believe it's all caused from having no test feelings. No natural clean normal everyday life energy. No sex drive. No drive of any kind. Just wanna lay on my couch. No happiness from things I know are fun. Worry and anxiety when I leave the house. No happiness because I know I don't feel normal and am shut down or something. More anxious cause idk when ill feel better. No want to go out because I have no energy. It all kinda compounds itself. But it all stems from having no libido, no energy, physically worn down, fat retention, no confidence, I feel so diva like. I feel self conscious. It's hard to explain man
    You my friend need to get laid! Just busstin your balls. Sounds rough, but the good news is that the cycle you ran was not that long ago, somewheres around i year. You are on the way to recovery. I have some home work for you. I have a friend of mine who happens to assist endos in this type of thing. I want you to prepare a report in your free time of the events of the last year pertaining to this issue. A sort of medical report as best you can remember with rxact dates and dosages of drugs you took along with a family history of diseases. Also list your blood work results. If your up to do doing this, dont ramble it all off like a forum post. Make it neat and organized so he can read it. Also random question, have you ever tried any form of combat spott before, boxing mma, judo, jui jitsu the like? Id like to add that even though im convinced your not crazy and this is very much hormonal, i want you to begin to accept that fact. Your not nuts kid. You have some physical issues that are manifesting themselves emotionally and this is normal. Its ok to feel this way, doesnt take away from your manliness or any of that bull****. Vent all you want and ask all you want, thats wat the ****ing interwebs is for. No one can judge you here and if they do ****em, there just an ip address. Well get this sorted out. Be easy

    Ray

  20. I have anxiety for the sake of anxiety. It has no purpose. There's nothing to be worried about and I know that and I tell myself that. Doesn't help. That's why I thought I was losing it. It's just tension. Worrying about nothing worrying all the time not even about anything in particular just whatever goes through my mind I overanalyze it to an extreme.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I had all these feelings in pct an maybe a couple weeks after my first cycle. Also when I went on Letro. So I know it's shut down symptoms. Just last time it didn't last so long, I didn't worry as much because I didn't know that it was shutdown and freak out like wow am I ever gonna feel better. I just thought I was tired and I was depressed. But as soon as it was there, it was gone an I felt even better than before. I could get any girl anywhere I went. And I did. I don't have the confidence or happy mood to get it done now because I done have libido, energy, like normal test driven energy, I don't have a test driven mind and attitude, and I don't have an acute mind- my mind feels overworked. These are pretty common pct symptoms. Just have been going on for so long it's bad.
    How do you know your shut down there jake?How are the testicles doing. You might have low t ( which is very fixable) but i dont think your shut down. When its been 3 weeks since your last dose of a hormonal drug ie nolva, clomiphene, letrozole, get a new set of blood work. I bet you a puerto rican hooker your not shut down but you have moderate to low t with high estro and above average prolactin.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    You my friend need to get laid! Just busstin your balls. Sounds rough, but the good news is that the cycle you ran was not that long ago, somewheres around i year. You are on the way to recovery. I have some home work for you. I have a friend of mine who happens to assist endos in this type of thing. I want you to prepare a report in your free time of the events of the last year pertaining to this issue. A sort of medical report as best you can remember with rxact dates and dosages of drugs you took along with a family history of diseases. Also list your blood work results. If your up to do doing this, dont ramble it all off like a forum post. Make it neat and organized so he can read it. Also random question, have you ever tried any form of combat spott before, boxing mma, judo, jui jitsu the like? Id like to add that even though im convinced your not crazy and this is very much hormonal, i want you to begin to accept that fact. Your not nuts kid. You have some physical issues that are manifesting themselves emotionally and this is normal. Its ok to feel this way, doesnt take away from your manliness or any of that bull****. Vent all you want and ask all you want, thats wat the ****ing interwebs is for. No one can judge you here and if they do ****em, there just an ip address. Well get this sorted out. Be easyRay
    Yeah I do haha. I've had sex a few times in the past few months. Nothing like it would be but nonetheless I've managed SOME action. I know I'm not nuts I kinda say I am just for reassurance from you that I'm not. No fighting sports before for me. I like boxing though. Also I played football if that matters. Like I said one time before, idk how to use the return key on my phone. I used it and it shows it to be neat. Then wen I post it its all in a giant paragraph cluster **** mess

  23. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I have anxiety for the sake of anxiety. It has no purpose. There's nothing to be worried about and I know that and I tell myself that. Doesn't help. That's why I thought I was losing it. It's just tension. Worrying about nothing worrying all the time not even about anything in particular just whatever goes through my mind I overanalyze it to an extreme.
    Yup, know exactly how you feel. Been there myself. Wanna hear something cool? When i was 18 i ran a cycle of superdrol at 40 mg for 6 weeks no pct. i felt like killing myself after. Took almost a year and half to get back to normal. As i said before, i took intrest in your case because i went thru something similar but i had no one to advise me as to what the proper course of action was. We live to learn.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Yeah I do haha. I've had sex a few times in the past few months. Nothing like it would be but nonetheless I've managed SOME action. I know I'm not nuts I kinda say I am just for reassurance from you that I'm not. No fighting sports before for me. I like boxing though. Also I played football if that matters. Like I said one time before, idk how to use the return key on my phone. I used it and it shows it to be neat. Then wen I post it its all in a giant paragraph cluster **** mess
    Well boxing saved my life, i dont body build i compete in the amateurs and golden gloves. Nothing has ever honed my senses, ripped of body fat and relieved so much stress all in the same time. Boxing made me a better athlete, a more humble person, and in the best shape ever. Contrary to popular belief, its a thinking mans sport. Dont matter how big and bad you are. If that sounds interesting to you, i suggest you find a local gym or boys and girls club and give it a shot. If its a good gym, theyl give you at least 4 to 6 months of training before they even think about letting you spar.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    How do you know your shut down there jake?How are the testicles doing. You might have low t ( which is very fixable) but i dont think your shut down. When its been 3 weeks since your last dose of a hormonal drug ie nolva, clomiphene, letrozole, get a new set of blood work. I bet you a puerto rican hooker your not shut down but you have moderate to low t with high estro and above average prolactin.
    I thought I posted my blpodwork. My T 3 weeks after clomid Nolva which was 5 weeks after HCG was 675. Total E was 170 and ref range is <130. Estradiol is 27. Prolactin was fine. I got like everything tested. They said LH and FSH weren't ready yet.
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