Clomid Superdrol PCT didn't work, no libido
- 05-14-2013, 03:27 AM
Testicles usually take a bit to recover, if there anywhere from 70 to 80 of what they were before, your on the right track. This means the necessary things are being done by your body. As for Test boosters, there mostly proprietary blends which means you dont really know what the specific dosages of what are in them. On top of that, many have down right worthless ingredients. Im a huge fan of DAA, it works, and has been clinically tested to do so, but like i said, you should wait until we know what E2 comes back as. Keep fighting.
- 05-14-2013, 03:29 AM
05-14-2013, 03:31 AM
Clomid blows, i hate that ****, they sat androgens cause agression, jesus, try synthetic estrogens, that **** is insanity in a pill.
05-14-2013, 03:38 AM
05-14-2013, 03:42 AM
i wouldnt be surprised if my recovery is longer mentally just because ive been out of the game and feeling natural and normal for so long now. **** its been 14 months.i still think ill know when im feeling good again, and not have to convince myself im okay. i dont think i should have to relearn how to be me again. i think once i get my test energy and sexual drive back, my mood depression and anxiety will level.
05-14-2013, 10:49 AM
yep. .. i think ur partialy right there. go out this weekend and bang a few fat chicks if u have too
05-14-2013, 06:27 PM
05-14-2013, 06:41 PM
05-14-2013, 09:44 PM
05-14-2013, 10:25 PM
Now, i DO want you to add some supplements. Heres the list:
Citrulline malate 4 g ed. This will improve erection strength substantially which will turn give you more confidence for some wet work should the occasion arise.
ZMA: self explanatory
L-carnitine tartarate: clinically proven to increase androgen receptor density in resistance trained athletes. Shoot for 4 grams a day as well with some carbs. Split dose twice a day. Take some carbs with each dose
Ginseng: great for overall mood and energy: you love it and it will help. Get a brand with a high ginsenosides quantity. Thats the key with ginseng
Finally, and you may laugh at this, but i think it helps. Wear loose fitting underwear such that your scrotum is not compressed. Helps me, laugh it up, but try it. See what happens, thank me later
Thats it for now. Update once or twice a week on your mood and libido levels. Well go from there.
05-14-2013, 11:43 PM
05-15-2013, 12:05 AM
How much fish oil should I take? Is it okay to take 1 g of Vit C in the morning and 500 mg before bed? Still take vitamin B D and multi right?
05-15-2013, 12:31 AM
05-15-2013, 12:40 AM
So im betting you had high hopes that the e2 was gunna be insanely high, pop an anti e and be back to normal? Guess again, you are dealing with one of the most senative organs in the body and imtensely comples ratios of hormones that only your own body knows how to balance and if youve ever taken even an intro biochem class, youl know its more than capable.
Lets recap for a second so you have a better picture. You took heavy doses of designer oral steroids with no real gaurantee that the hormones on the label were wat were actually in the pills for a very extended period of time. No **** you feel this way!!!!!!!!! Your supposed to feel this way. Make no mistake, you likely caused severe damage to your hpta at such a young and developing age. You need to come to grips physchology first that you are in fact not normal now, you are partially hypogonal, and this is a medical condition that must be treated as such. You are not ok. Let me be clear again.
Once you accept thia fact we can break it down into science. Your testicles by your suggestion are not producing enough t for your liking. This is normal, they have been coming back slowly as you say, but again, for them to reach 100% normal it cannot go back to over night or even months after the damage they sustained. Second point. All hope is not last, your e2 is somewhat high. Your hpta needs time to recover. Give it more time. Now for the good news, considering your chemical castration cycle, you have faired pretty well. Based on your numbers there is an lh signal that will likely continue to increase over time. What your likely feeling is the hormonal imbalance aspect and once this begins to resolve youl continue to feel incrementally better. Now you also have to understand that the body responds well to external stimulation and you hve to give it that. You need to excercise for your body to reward you hormonally and you need to engage in sexual activity and flirting for it to respond in term by producing more sperm and t.
Look im not a doc, i dont pretend to have all your answers or cure you, i dont. But based on experiance and what medical knowledge i do have, youl get better considerqbly over time, theres been plenty of guys that recoverd from alot worse than this, and there are other tools and options if all else fails, which it wont. Time
Now for the fish oil, depending on concentration, close to 6 to 8 a day. It is not ok to take 1500 mg of vit c, take only 500 sometimes less is more.
05-15-2013, 12:40 AM
05-15-2013, 12:41 AM
05-15-2013, 12:44 AM
05-15-2013, 12:50 AM
Oh okay. I thought you said 500 mg of Vit C 3x a day. So I thought 1000 mg once then 500 mg later. Not okay then? My fish oil is 1000mg per Sofitel. Yeah no most messing with hormones for me. It's very hard to flirt with such little energy ya know. I can do it myself for now if that's enough. I will keep doing the things you say such as exercising eating eggs and more meats... I guess I just thought that if my hormone numbers were good I should feel good. I guess there is like a delaying effect phase where you need to quit it all and let yourself reset to its perfect needs and ratios.
05-15-2013, 12:50 AM
05-15-2013, 12:56 AM
Il pm you a source if you actually end up needing them in 4 weeks when you get another blood test also make sure you go to all your endo and other doc appointments. Youll only gain and who knows they might find something completely unrelated. Just go, thank me later
05-15-2013, 12:59 AM
05-15-2013, 01:11 AM
05-15-2013, 01:13 AM
05-15-2013, 01:18 AM
Is it possible that just taking these supplements could make it worse? Like is there a point where I need to stop everything and just let me body sort itself out?
05-15-2013, 01:20 AM
05-15-2013, 01:20 AM
05-15-2013, 01:22 AM
None of the supplements i listed are hormonal will in any negative way affect your recovery. Its up to you tho.
In terms of recovery, its really hard to say. Some guys can be back in a couple of months others in a couple of years.
05-15-2013, 01:24 AM
I'm pretty shaky, stressed, and worrysome all day I've noticed. Faster heartbeat for no reason. I'm guessing its from worrying about all this and my body overcompensating for not having any energy
05-15-2013, 01:31 AM
05-15-2013, 02:28 AM
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