Clomid Superdrol PCT didn't work, no libido

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Well boxing saved my life, i dont body build i compete in the amateurs and golden gloves. Nothing has ever honed my senses, ripped of body fat and relieved so much stress all in the same time. Boxing made me a better athlete, a more humble person, and in the best shape ever. Contrary to popular belief, its a thinking mans sport. Dont matter how big and bad you are. If that sounds interesting to you, i suggest you find a local gym or boys and girls club and give it a shot. If its a good gym, theyl give you at least 4 to 6 months of training before they even think about letting you spar.
    That sounds ****ing sweet man. I never got into mma or any of that but throwing fists was always something I just wante to be good at idk. We're pretty primal people. I am that way with basketball. And I would agree that they are totally thinking sports. I've always been great with anticipation and reading others in sports. Crazy nice intangible to have


  2. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post

    I thought I posted my blpodwork. My T 3 weeks after clomid Nolva which was 5 weeks after HCG was 675. Total E was 170 and ref range is <130. Estradiol is 27. Prolactin was fine. I got like everything tested. They said LH and FSH weren't ready yet.
    I might have missed that. This looks good and bad. The LH will be the best indicator of shut down, but your T is fine, excellent as a matter of fact considering you were not under the direct effects of the serms. Might drop again (normal) in the next set of bloods but well see. Estro is high. This needs to come down to about 60 percent or less than where its at imo. This will be an instant boost. Lets give the detox another month and wait for round 2 of bloods before we look for ways to adress it. So far so good bud.
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  3. You are most definetly not shutdown, not optimal, but not shutdown. Pat your self on the back your hpta is ****ing rocky, got its ass kicked and still alive.

  4. E2 down 60% or total estrogen down 60%? And I took aromasin for 5 days up until today when I quit it all

  5. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    You are most definetly not shutdown, not optimal, but not shutdown. Pat your self on the back your hpta is ****ing rocky, got its ass kicked and still alive.
    Yeah I mean that's good. Just frustrating that I can't feel like my numbers show
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    E2 down 60% or total estrogen down 60%? And I took aromasin for 5 days up until today when I quit it all
    Your total estrogen needs to get below 130, we should shoot for about 100. Wats the ref range on e2?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Your total estrogen needs to get below 130, we should shoot for about 100. Wats the ref range on e2?
    I didn't ask but it's usually 10-40. Yeah gyno shrunk a good amount in just those 5 days of aromasin. Lost bloat and water. Ill get retested in a few weeks

  8. Off topic. But whenever I do get random erections the don't feel as good. The pleasure sensitivity and joy of it isn't really there. It's just like a boner with nothin to it. Weird. My wang is also skinnier looking. Idk if that's blood flow or what

  9. Libido is bad. Ill look at porn and rather sleep. I dot get into it. Or anything for that matter and I just don't get those urges. I miss them soooo much

  10. Forgot to comment on my testicles. Thought the day they range from 60-80% of their original size. Sometimes firm sometimes very.. Squishy? They used to be like small eggs. Now they are big grapes

  11. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I didn't ask but it's usually 10-40. Yeah gyno shrunk a good amount in just those 5 days of aromasin. Lost bloat and water. Ill get retested in a few weeks
    Find out exact ref range on e2. Its a weird hormone estrogen, too high and it will cause havoc with mood, emotions, libido. Too low then you start loosing bone density, crushes libido, list goes on. Must be in balance. Seems a but high. Well know for sure on next bloods.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Off topic. But whenever I do get random erections the don't feel as good. The pleasure sensitivity and joy of it isn't really there. It's just like a boner with nothin to it. Weird. My wang is also skinnier looking. Idk if that's blood flow or what
    Got nothing for ya on this one, but sensitivity is usually nervous system related. Cant see how your cycle had any affect on that, though its posdible i suppose. Any changes in the extremities? Dullness im fingers, toes? Lack of reaction to hot or cold?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Libido is bad. Ill look at porn and rather sleep. I dot get into it. Or anything for that matter and I just don't get those urges. I miss them soooo much
    Possibly correlated to estrogen. It should be noted that usually libido is the first thkng to dive when rhe rest of your mind is not right. Contrary to popular belief, libido was actually a pyschlogical term developed by sigmund frued. No doubt it has hormonal aspects, but its also considerably mental. Will improve when you begin to take control of thoughts and emotions, man up, and force your brain back into being alpha. Who gives a **** if you dont have raging wood? Does that make you less of a man. You need to retrain your brain and personality into becoming alpha again, regardless of what temporary handicaps you may or may not have.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Forgot to comment on my testicles. Thought the day they range from 60-80% of their original size. Sometimes firm sometimes very.. Squishy? They used to be like small eggs. Now they are big grapes
    Testicle size is not a huge indicator of test levels, but nonetheless important. If they have grown back that much, they will continue to grow and if they were responsive to hcg then they will grow for sure. Note that testicle size changes considerably throughout the day based on varying factors including time, sleep patterns and temperature.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Got nothing for ya on this one, but sensitivity is usually nervous system related. Cant see how your cycle had any affect on that, though its posdible i suppose. Any changes in the extremities? Dullness im fingers, toes? Lack of reaction to hot or cold?
    Ive been suspecting CNS problems for a while. I don't know too much about it though. Like what causes the problems or anything. I've been doing a jump training program for basketball and had no results when I used to a long time ago. And one huge component is training the CNS. Definitely had reduced finger hand toe and foot problems. Like they are colder than the rest of my body. Never loose. Always feels like they need to be warmed up. No amount of stretching and Cardio loosens that up.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post

    Testicle size is not a huge indicator of test levels, but nonetheless important. If they have grown back that much, they will continue to grow and if they were responsive to hcg then they will grow for sure. Note that testicle size changes considerably throughout the day based on varying factors including time, sleep patterns and temperature.
    Btw i noticed in another thread you started that you gained acess to HMG?! Thats some pretty potent stuff and hard to come by. How did you get a hold of hcg, hmg, and syringes and were unable to acquire pharm grade pct drugs? Also how did you reconstitute both of them? And who in gods name gave you that 2500 iu ed or eod or whatever whacko dosing protocol that was?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Possibly correlated to estrogen. It should be noted that usually libido is the first thkng to dive when rhe rest of your mind is not right. Contrary to popular belief, libido was actually a pyschlogical term developed by sigmund frued. No doubt it has hormonal aspects, but its also considerably mental. Will improve when you begin to take control of thoughts and emotions, man up, and force your brain back into being alpha. Who gives a **** if you dont have raging wood? Does that make you less of a man. You need to retrain your brain and personality into becoming alpha again, regardless of what temporary handicaps you may or may not have.
    I have. I have been telling myself when I get down that I am the man and yeah it works but I'm constantly tired so I'm always like **** well what am I supposed to do. I'm trying but I'm dead and feel like a zombie

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Btw i noticed in another thread you started that you gained acess to HMG?! Thats some pretty potent stuff and hard to come by. How did you get a hold of hcg, hmg, and syringes and were unable to acquire pharm grade pct drugs? Also how did you reconstitute both of them? And who in gods name gave you that 2500 iu ed or eod or whatever whacko dosing protocol that was?
    The protocol is from a popular restart protocol. Can't thing of the name. Hacksii maybe? I got HCG and HMG on a website and I can with clomid etc but they aren't from a pharmacy they are research chemicals. Put them in bac water and refrigerate them

  19. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post

    Ive been suspecting CNS problems for a while. I don't know too much about it though. Like what causes the problems or anything. I've been doing a jump training program for basketball and had no results when I used to a long time ago. And one huge component is training the CNS. Definitely had reduced finger hand toe and foot problems. Like they are colder than the rest of my body. Never loose. Always feels like they need to be warmed up. No amount of stretching and Cardio loosens that up.
    This is interesting to say the least. While your hormones are not amazing, they are certainly not
    Catastrophic, we can certainly remmedy them. This you need to get checked out and i suspect as well is having a significant impact on the way you feel. Also, on your next round of bloods get dht checked out. Are you prone to hair loss? Also, we should talk the next time before you go to the docs. Il pm you the right way to talk to a doc so you get the answers your looking for. You have to understand how they think, etc well get into more of it when the time comes.

  20. It's Scallys power Pct

  21. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    The protocol is from a popular restart protocol. Can't thing of the name. Hacksii maybe? I got HCG and HMG on a website and I can with clomid etc but they aren't from a pharmacy they are research chemicals. Put them in bac water and refrigerate them
    Jesus christ kid. Do you know how sensitive hcg and hmg are? They were likely half inactive or almost worthless by the time they got inside your body, if they were even real. I dunno, knowing what i know, i just dont trust research chems, especially when it comes to something that has to be reconstituted. Just my 2 cents.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    This is interesting to say the least. While your hormones are not amazing, they are certainly notCatastrophic, we can certainly remmedy them. This you need to get checked out and i suspect as well is having a significant impact on the way you feel. Also, on your next round of bloods get dht checked out. Are you prone to hair loss? Also, we should talk the next time before you go to the docs. Il pm you the right way to talk to a doc so you get the answers your looking for. You have to understand how they think, etc well get into more of it when the time comes.
    What info do you have about the CNS stuff? DHT was checked and all I know is it was in range. I think they'll mail me the lab results in a week. My appointment is Wednesday the 23 next week. Not prone to hairloss whatsoever. Nobody on either side has any hairloss neither grandfathers do either.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Jesus christ kid. Do you know how sensitive hcg and hmg are? They were likely half inactive or almost worthless by the time they got inside your body, if they were even real. I dunno, knowing what i know, i just dont trust research chems, especially when it comes to something that has to be reconstituted. Just my 2 cents.
    Yes I had read that. I read that this pct protocol was thoroughly researched and actually proven to work

  24. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    It's Scallys power Pct
    Ahh, Dr. Michael scally. Smart guy, but his protocol was designed for old farts and juice heads that havnt come off in years. Im exaggerating but yea those 2 were probably a but much. Too much hcg, again if potent, toxin free, and real is not a good thing. Anyway, thats the past well leave it where it is.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post

    Yes I had read that. I read that this pct protocol was thoroughly researched and actually proven to work
    It is, but if youl notice many of those attempting it had had significantly longer or heavier cycles than your self. It might be wise to track down his info and schedule a consult, hes rather brilliant and experienced in this field.
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