Simple question...been gone awhile...trenavar or trenazone better, based on results and efficacy??

I have both, ran trenazone, it was crazy good in gains and fat loss.
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Price-wise Trenazone will be a much better bang for the buck.
If you can push the dosage (and the wallet) with trenavar, it will probably perform a bit better.
Just inject.
If you go the trenavar route, I can recommend a better source that PHF.
If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).
google raw tren powder and u can find trenavar powder for 10$ a gram but thats still too expensive. 1$ for 100mgs. i figure i'd need 500mg a day minimum. fina is a much better deal. so to answer ur question, trenazone.
yeah, its a dione. i usually ran 100mg a day of trenbolone in the past. so @ 20% conversion and i'm probably being generous with those conversion numbers. idk i aint tried the stuff, i'm just saying. i never got anything from 4-adione and 4adiol needed 1000mg -2000mg a day for sh1t gains if taken orally.
Haha. 3.5grams a week. Holy crap even with a low conversion rate that's More than u would give a cow. U must be a beastOriginally Posted by HereToStudy
Christopher
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/206529-christophers-absentminded-log.html#post3491306
i've been on a serious cut for the last couple few months. i'm gaining again now and i'll be over 208 in a month or less. 195 this morning.
sounds like u guys have been listening to the folks selling that bs instead of the ones that have tried it. nobody does less than 50 mg a day of trenbolone injected. so the math on that stuff doesn't add up. btw i'm gonna change my weight to 245lb in my profile so that what i say will suddenly be more accurate. lol i used to weigh 120 and thats no sh1t. but look i aint gonna argue about trenavar anymore. if you like it take it.
Actually a lot of pros on here only use tren at 50-75 EOD. People go out of control with dosages recently, more isn't always better.Originally Posted by RH2012
I've run trenazone and it was awesome, 2 bottles for 6 weeks.
I don't really care for PHFs PHs/DS
I'm say do what works for u. That is a high dose if u can handle it then do it.Originally Posted by RH2012
Christopher
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/206529-christophers-absentminded-log.html#post3491306
lol i was raging a little earlier. hadn't ate yet today. i'm starting to think hunger is the real cause of roid rage. i was exaggerating a little on the .5g a day thing but realistically, even @ 200mg a day thats expensive stuff and that doesn't include the 6$ for shipping.
What are you talking about? Many start at a lower tren at a low dose like 30mg ED to see how the react to it. You make blanket statements like you are an expert and know conversions rates, with no facts to back them up, I'm going to just let you continue to believe that and sit back. This board just keeps being filled with bad information in the anabolics section, I feel for anyone doing research.
Edit - saw your post above. Just realize lots don't have a clue and just take something like this as gospel, have to watch out so they aren't the statistic that gets the good stuff taken away.
If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).
All Diones are 20%? And you are pulling this from?
The average satisfactory dose has been around 75 (if averaged out). I know a national level competitor who is coaching a client right now that he has using 90mg. I myself am on a cycle right now with 90. A member on PHF continually raised dosage to find sweet spot, and said above 90 gains were good, but not much better than 90, and the sides were considerably worse. I personally think the compound should be ran between 90 and 120.
..and your weight had nothing to do with my implications on your intelligence, I mentioned your weight as a means of weight/dosage.
Also, no one will argue with price. Definitely not cheap to run. At retail, my 8 week cycle would have cost $320. Fortunately, I didn't pay any where near the ballpark of that.
Just inject.
My man, I stocked the **** up last sale they had.Originally Posted by HereToStudy
Christopher
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/206529-christophers-absentminded-log.html#post3491306
i pulled that 20% from thin air and didn't say all diones. that kind of thing cant be research effectively. what might be a 10% conversion in one person might be 30% in another. i've been doing this for supplement thing for twenty years and all the diones i have tried just didn't seem to work. they have poor binding to the ar. the manufacturers of this stuff are claiming that it converts to trenbolone. all i know is i have done trenbolone several times and never thought that much about it. only sides i ever got was a little temper problem and gyno if i go above 100 mg a day. had no sides at 75 mg ed.