Can muscles be overworked on steroids?

[superswole23]

I always hear people say not to overtrain muscles so they don't become over worked and stopp growing. Can muscles be overworked if using steroids?

[howwedo107]

Yes but it takes a lot more while on cycle then Opposed to when your off cycle...some guys do two a days while on cycle and still hardly get DOMs

[Jbranken]

The same as being 'off' gear, listen to your body. I hit each group every 3-4 days when I'm on but you might feel more comfortable waiting another day or doing 2-3 days per group

[Rhadam]

Muscles can get overworked on sterons. But the biggest issue is your tendons and ligaments. The muscles grow much faster than everything else, and it's easy to injure yourself.

[ReyMan]

When on cycle I've never felt like I overtrain. I even cram my 4 day routine into a 2 day routine.
Make sure you get dat dere protein and sleep

[superswole23]

Thanks guys! I weigh 170ish so should I shoot for 250g protein a day sound good?

[SuperPro]

Overtraining isn't always bad anyway, purposeful overtraining is actually a method of working out. A good one IMO, but it can beat the living crap out of your joints.

[Rodja]

Overtraining isn't always bad anyway, purposeful overtraining is actually a method of working out. A good one IMO, but it can beat the living crap out of your joints.

Overreaching and overtraining are not the same thing.

[SuperPro]

Overreaching and overtraining are not the same thing.

Talks a little bit about purposeful overtraining in this: http://www.neuro-vision.us/ad/Articl...-Building/9985

It can be hard to find info on but there is something called a "shock micro cycle" and one way of doing that type of short cycle is overtraining on purpose for one week(a micro cycle is a 1-7 days).

Also overtraining was commonly done on purpose by oldschool bodybuilders, and probably still by bodybuilders today.

Another, maybe better, source: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/conte...ool-high-1371/

[Rodja]

Talks a little bit about purposeful overtraining in this: http://www.neuro-vision.us/ad/Articl...-Building/9985

It can be hard to find info on but there is something called a "shock micro cycle" and one way of doing that type of short cycle is overtraining on purpose for one week(a micro cycle is a 1-7 days).

Also overtraining was commonly done on purpose by oldschool bodybuilders, and probably still by bodybuilders today.

Another, maybe better, source: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/conte...ool-high-1371/

That's called overreaching, not overtraining. Overtraining is something that is thrown around far too commonly these days.

[tnubs]

Your muscles recover faster but you can overwork your nervous system and still feel like garbage.

[superswole23]

My workout is as follows:

Day 1- arms-
biceps barbell curls 4 working sets
Triceps press down 4 or 5 working sets
Biceps hammer curls 3 sets
Triceps headaches(skull crushers) 3 sets
Biceps preacher curls 4 sets
Triceps dips 4 sets

Day 2 - shoulders and legs

Military press barbell
5 working sets
Military press dumbbell
4 working sets
Shoulder flies 4 or 5 sets
Real delt flies 3 sets

Legs
Squat 4 sets
Calf raises 4 sets
Leg curls 4 sets

Day 3 chest back

Bench 5 working sets
Bench dumbbells 4 sets
Dumbbell flies 4 sets
Machine flies 3 sets
Dips

Back
Pull ups 4 sets
Row 4 sets
Pull downs 4 sets

No set day for rest until I run into something and I can't workout. Usually miss 1 workout every two weeks approx

[tnubs]

No set day for rest until I run into something and I can't workout. Usually miss 1 workout every two weeks approx

Arms get hit 13 days in a row directly and indirectly. That just screams overtraining to me, i wouldnt even do that on cycle.

[superswole23]

Arms get hit 13 days in a row directly and indirectly. That just screams overtraining to me, i wouldnt even do that on cycle.

Well damn. I get flabby when I skip a day of working out. And I seem to still be growing fine

[Rodja]

Well damn. I get flabby when I skip a day of working out. And I seem to still be growing fine

You have more volume for arms then legs, which is far from optimal. You do not get flabby in one day; that's all in your head.

[SuperPro]

The problem I see is you only have 12 sets of legs, and 12 sets of back. I don't know how your body reacts and what your strong points are but I would say you need at least 16-20 sets for major muscle groups and at least 8-12 sets for small muscle groups. Those are just generic all around numbers though, and would need to be adjusted for strong/weak points and other varying factors.

[tnubs]

The problem I see is you only have 12 sets of legs, and 12 sets of back. I don't know how your body reacts and what your strong points are but I would say you need at least 16-20 sets for major muscle groups and at least 8-12 sets for small muscle groups. Those are just generic all around numbers though, and would need to be adjusted for strong/weak points and other varying factors.

Thats a lot of volume, i highly doubt anyone needs that much to actually grow. If you have pushed your body to require that much volume i can guarantee you will get better gains by taking a short time off of that and into a lower volume, higher frequency program.

[groverino]

Thats a lot of volume, i highly doubt anyone needs that much to actually grow. If you have pushed your body to require that much volume i can guarantee you will get better gains by taking a short time off of that and into a lower volume, higher frequency program.

This. That's a terrible program on or off. Search up "5/3/1" and read it.

[howwedo107]

Jesus I grow like a champ with
Chest/Bi 3 exercises for chest n 2 for bis
Back/tri 3 exercises for back n 2 for tris
Legs 4 exercises for legs
Shoulders/forearms/abs 3 for shoulders 1 for forearms 2 for abs
Off
Repeat

And I do 4 sets and focus mostly on compound lifts and do all body weight and free weight exercises rarely do machines

[Rhadam]

Well damn. I get flabby when I skip a day of working out. And I seem to still be growing fine

Wut? I skipped over 2 weeks of lifting after my physique competition, and my composition did not change.

Strong mental weakness lol.