Lee Van Cleef
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I got a few PM's asking me to post some before and after pics of my Anavar cycle and since I just finished last night I thought today would be a good day to post. Please note that these pics were taken last week and unfortunately over MDW my phone encountered some water damage and is broken so I lost everything. Luckily, I had emailed 4 pics to my friend. Below is a little background on how this all came about (I copy and pasted from some of my threads so if you've seen some of this before sorry):
Well, over a year ago (November 2010!!! <---I just realized that in my previous posts I've been writing 2011...I'm an idiot) I was in a motorcycle accident and I weighed about 180ish (I didn't get there all naturally) and was about to run my 2nd PH cycle. I had to get surgery and the doctors needed to attach a couple of steel plates to my ribs which will be removed in a year or so (I circled the scars). As you can imagine recovery was pretty rough and I lost about 30lbs as I was bed/couch ridden and hocked up on pain pills. I hadn't stepped foot in a gym since the accident. Coughing, sneezing and even laughing hurt my body. It was miserable. On March 13th, 2012 I weighed roughly 150-152lbs and probably about 16-17% BF (not accurate). I looked like a malnutritioned Ethiopian child. My friends would constantly make fun of me (we like to make fun of one another until we develop complexes hahaha). My main goal was to get my strength and size back. This was Day 1 of the gym and my before picture that you see here...pretty bad huh? I still can't believe it.
I said to myself how the **** am I gonna start this long and hard journey? So, I immediately came to the boards seeking help/advice and it was recommended to do Rippetoe's Starting Strength and to run an 8 week cycle of Anabeta, Erase Pro, and DAA (Formula-X). On April 14th (1 month later), I weighed 162lbs. Strength was really picking up (I think I have my starting and 1 month later numbers somewhere...I can post if you want to see them), recovery was great and I felt good. However, on April 16th I found out one of my friends sells Anavar. I looked up the UGL that he gets it from and they were GTG. Now, I'm sure many of you will say "Dude WTF, finish the Anabeta cycle!!!" You can get to 180 naturally. I know, I know but after all my research and speaking to my friend it seemed like this was going to be very mild and I was sick and tired of being frail so I said what the hell (famous last words). This is also the time I stopped doing the SS and moved to a full body 5 day split. I never really focused on biceps at all because they were getting hit in my compound lifts and on back days but starting about 2 weeks ago I tried to focus more on them.
Anavar is honestly unreal haha. I now weigh 176lbs and I'm probably around 15-16% BF (but it could be higher...I'm just guessing) because I've been bulking like crazy (as clean as I possibly can though). For those that are considering to run Var I would recommend taking it at a lesser BF%. Prob around 12-14% give or take. Strength is out of control and I put on a lot of size while still maintaining a somewhat level BF%. When I do my chest workout it feels like my pecs are going to explode. They look huge and my shirt stretches out. It's insane. Same goes with biceps and legs. Legs especially. None of my jeans fit now and it sucks b/c I usually wear a slimmer fitting style but my quads are too big to fit in them haha.
I'm sunburned as **** by the way. I had to cover up a tattoo and some other stuff so people don't recognize it's me haha...paranoid. I want to point out that it is hard as **** to pose and take pics with one hand. I don't know how you guys do it but it ain't easy. I also look like I have no traps in these pics but I assure you I do although they need to be worked out more haha. Really wish I had the pics of my before back and after back. The difference would blow your mind.
Anavar is the **** and I will more than likely be running it again in the future. However, I won't rush it this time and I want to make sure I'm really dialed in with diet and workout routine. It feels so good to be back in the gym. Downside though is the slight atrophy (at least for me), slight foggy headed feeling (almost like a headache but bearable...this got marginally better when I added milk thistle and a kidney supplement), I also felt slower/dumber sometimes, also some short term memory issues (but I sometimes get those in general haha). Later on I was told to stop taking milk thistle and to switch to Liv 52 which I have done. Not sure I notice a difference but I figured it wouldn't hurt.
Since I was new to the stack I ran everything as directed and didn't up my dosage. As for the Anavar I ran that @ 50mg for 4 weeks, 5th week @ 60mg and 6th & 7th weeks @ 80mg. When I bumped up the dosage that's when I noticed the atrophy more. Getting it up took a bit longer sometimes but eventually he got there. I don't think I was as hard as I could've been either. However, I was also still taking the Formula X. Since they were micronized they puffed up so a bottle would last me forever (I had 2 bottles) and I was doing 2 full scoops. I actually have a little bit left from when I bought the stuff 2 months ago. I think the DAA might have helped in keeping my suppression minimal because sometimes I would go 2 rounds in a short time hahaha so it was very weird to be going back and forth like that. Am I suppressed or not? Are my balls shrinking? Is it all in my head?
Anyway, I'm running PCT now and this is what it looks like:
Tamoxifen Citrate: 20/20/10/10 (I was gonna do 40/20/20/10 but after some reading I got a little freaked out and figured I'll just do minimal)
TCF-1: Running this 24 days consecutively
Intimidate: 8 weeks
Anabeta: 4 weeks
Erase Pro: 4 weeks
After reading a lot of things about DAA, I'm not sure if what I'm doing is ok now. I've been running Formula X since March. I'm now about to take 24 days of TCF-1 and 8 weeks of Intimidate. That's 16 weeks of DAA. Is that safe?
Also, feel free to ask any questions, post concerns, advice, hate, love, etc. Thank you all that helped me achieve my main goal. The work isn't over yet and I still have a long ways to go but I'm happy where I'm at and I'm happy where I'm headed. Thanks brothers.
Well, over a year ago (November 2010!!! <---I just realized that in my previous posts I've been writing 2011...I'm an idiot) I was in a motorcycle accident and I weighed about 180ish (I didn't get there all naturally) and was about to run my 2nd PH cycle. I had to get surgery and the doctors needed to attach a couple of steel plates to my ribs which will be removed in a year or so (I circled the scars). As you can imagine recovery was pretty rough and I lost about 30lbs as I was bed/couch ridden and hocked up on pain pills. I hadn't stepped foot in a gym since the accident. Coughing, sneezing and even laughing hurt my body. It was miserable. On March 13th, 2012 I weighed roughly 150-152lbs and probably about 16-17% BF (not accurate). I looked like a malnutritioned Ethiopian child. My friends would constantly make fun of me (we like to make fun of one another until we develop complexes hahaha). My main goal was to get my strength and size back. This was Day 1 of the gym and my before picture that you see here...pretty bad huh? I still can't believe it.
I said to myself how the **** am I gonna start this long and hard journey? So, I immediately came to the boards seeking help/advice and it was recommended to do Rippetoe's Starting Strength and to run an 8 week cycle of Anabeta, Erase Pro, and DAA (Formula-X). On April 14th (1 month later), I weighed 162lbs. Strength was really picking up (I think I have my starting and 1 month later numbers somewhere...I can post if you want to see them), recovery was great and I felt good. However, on April 16th I found out one of my friends sells Anavar. I looked up the UGL that he gets it from and they were GTG. Now, I'm sure many of you will say "Dude WTF, finish the Anabeta cycle!!!" You can get to 180 naturally. I know, I know but after all my research and speaking to my friend it seemed like this was going to be very mild and I was sick and tired of being frail so I said what the hell (famous last words). This is also the time I stopped doing the SS and moved to a full body 5 day split. I never really focused on biceps at all because they were getting hit in my compound lifts and on back days but starting about 2 weeks ago I tried to focus more on them.
Anavar is honestly unreal haha. I now weigh 176lbs and I'm probably around 15-16% BF (but it could be higher...I'm just guessing) because I've been bulking like crazy (as clean as I possibly can though). For those that are considering to run Var I would recommend taking it at a lesser BF%. Prob around 12-14% give or take. Strength is out of control and I put on a lot of size while still maintaining a somewhat level BF%. When I do my chest workout it feels like my pecs are going to explode. They look huge and my shirt stretches out. It's insane. Same goes with biceps and legs. Legs especially. None of my jeans fit now and it sucks b/c I usually wear a slimmer fitting style but my quads are too big to fit in them haha.
I'm sunburned as **** by the way. I had to cover up a tattoo and some other stuff so people don't recognize it's me haha...paranoid. I want to point out that it is hard as **** to pose and take pics with one hand. I don't know how you guys do it but it ain't easy. I also look like I have no traps in these pics but I assure you I do although they need to be worked out more haha. Really wish I had the pics of my before back and after back. The difference would blow your mind.
Anavar is the **** and I will more than likely be running it again in the future. However, I won't rush it this time and I want to make sure I'm really dialed in with diet and workout routine. It feels so good to be back in the gym. Downside though is the slight atrophy (at least for me), slight foggy headed feeling (almost like a headache but bearable...this got marginally better when I added milk thistle and a kidney supplement), I also felt slower/dumber sometimes, also some short term memory issues (but I sometimes get those in general haha). Later on I was told to stop taking milk thistle and to switch to Liv 52 which I have done. Not sure I notice a difference but I figured it wouldn't hurt.
Since I was new to the stack I ran everything as directed and didn't up my dosage. As for the Anavar I ran that @ 50mg for 4 weeks, 5th week @ 60mg and 6th & 7th weeks @ 80mg. When I bumped up the dosage that's when I noticed the atrophy more. Getting it up took a bit longer sometimes but eventually he got there. I don't think I was as hard as I could've been either. However, I was also still taking the Formula X. Since they were micronized they puffed up so a bottle would last me forever (I had 2 bottles) and I was doing 2 full scoops. I actually have a little bit left from when I bought the stuff 2 months ago. I think the DAA might have helped in keeping my suppression minimal because sometimes I would go 2 rounds in a short time hahaha so it was very weird to be going back and forth like that. Am I suppressed or not? Are my balls shrinking? Is it all in my head?
Anyway, I'm running PCT now and this is what it looks like:
Tamoxifen Citrate: 20/20/10/10 (I was gonna do 40/20/20/10 but after some reading I got a little freaked out and figured I'll just do minimal)
TCF-1: Running this 24 days consecutively
Intimidate: 8 weeks
Anabeta: 4 weeks
Erase Pro: 4 weeks
After reading a lot of things about DAA, I'm not sure if what I'm doing is ok now. I've been running Formula X since March. I'm now about to take 24 days of TCF-1 and 8 weeks of Intimidate. That's 16 weeks of DAA. Is that safe?
Also, feel free to ask any questions, post concerns, advice, hate, love, etc. Thank you all that helped me achieve my main goal. The work isn't over yet and I still have a long ways to go but I'm happy where I'm at and I'm happy where I'm headed. Thanks brothers.