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    Why does SOME gear cause you to crave carbs?


    Is this due to cortisol or insulin modulation (from the gear) ?

    Im a low carb guy so maybe some of you dont experience this
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    Higher anabolic processes require more energy and water.
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    But not all "anabolic" gear does this. Soem androgenic gear does this too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    But not all "anabolic" gear does this. Soem androgenic gear does this too
    Like what?
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    I was under the impression this occurred due to increased glycogen retention.
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    yeah alot of anabolics cause glycogen supercompensation. so alot more is stored in the muscles while on. thats one of the ways your muscles get the rounder fuller apearence while on cycle and also contributes to some of the weight lost once the cycle is over.
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    havoc has been doing this to me pretty strongly
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    or its the trenazone
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    Yeah on SD all I ever wanted was a damn sandwich but I'm gluten intolerant...
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    All of you that have agreed, are you referring to CARBS specifically? Increased hunger is a no brainer. Im referring to carbs specifically.

    That said, I cannot necessarily differentiate betwen my cravings for junk sugars verses carbs but if I were to guess, it's SUGAR (chocolate candy especially) lol
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    carbs.... chicken, tuna, a big ****in steak.... none of it helped. a whole grain bread and natty pb sandwhich did the trick. and maybe a snickers lol
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    energy. it takes energy to be in an anabolic state. carbs more specifically, glycogen doesn't need oxygen to be used for energy. it is a readliy available form of energy.

    what are these non anabolic/androgenic compounds that dont make you/make you crave carbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    All of you that have agreed, are you referring to CARBS specifically? Increased hunger is a no brainer. Im referring to carbs specifically.

    That said, I cannot necessarily differentiate betwen my cravings for junk sugars verses carbs but if I were to guess, it's SUGAR (chocolate candy especially) lol
    Yeah it was specifically carbs, like I wanted pizza everyday and breadsticks.
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    Most of them! LOLOL

    Cant think of any that did NOT do this except for the joke PH's that barely worked

    Read the other posts, I everyone agreed thus far

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    what are these non anabolic/androgenic compounds that dont make you/make you crave carbs?
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    I just demolished a half pound bag (15 servings) of these:


    OOOOOPS


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    Yeah it was specifically carbs, like I wanted pizza everyday and breadsticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    I just demolished a half pound bag (15 servings) of these:

    OOOOOPS
    Hahaha what r u running right now?
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    are you getting enough carbs post workout? that's the most important time to replenish them.
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    Var

    Appetite way down, as always with var, but carb cravings way the H up

    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Var

    Appetite way down, as always with var, but carb cravings way the H up

    Lol
    I'm on epi now, appetite way up but actually no carb cravings. SD is another story though, all I want is carbs but I don't get the appetite increase really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed

    I'm on epi now, appetite way up but actually no carb cravings. SD is another story though, all I want is carbs but I don't get the appetite increase really.
    Are u celiac? I was a prep chef for six years I have alot of gluten free recipes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179

    Are u celiac? I was a prep chef for six years I have alot of gluten free recipes.
    Gluten intolerant actually, it f*cking sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Powers View Post
    I was under the impression this occurred due to increased glycogen retention.
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    yeah alot of anabolics cause glycogen supercompensation. so alot more is stored in the muscles while on. thats one of the ways your muscles get the rounder fuller apearence while on cycle and also contributes to some of the weight lost once the cycle is over.
    Exactly this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed

    Gluten intolerant actually, it f*cking sucks.
    Same here man. It sucks
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    Same here man. It sucks
    Can't even have a damn sandwich.
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    I get like this more from sdrol than anything! The last few weeks have been rough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    I get like this more from sdrol than anything! The last few weeks have been rough!
    I agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Most of them! LOLOL

    Cant think of any that did NOT do this except for the joke PH's that barely worked

    Read the other posts, I everyone agreed thus far
    Well I don't know of any aas that aren't anabolic. Start researching anabolsm, energy systems, and you will have a better understanding
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    From my experience EQ made me a carb addict for the first time in my life. I never craved so much as a donut before EQ and worst of all it killed my appetite for meat when I was pretty much naturally an atkins dieter. Adrol and tren really kill my appetite overall. I've actually used an Adrol/Winny stack to kick off a cut mix.
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    Epi blunts my appetite from what I recall but Im weird. I thought EPI was overrated and caused way too much lethargy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I'm on epi now, appetite way up but actually no carb cravings. SD is another story though, all I want is carbs but I don't get the appetite increase really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Epi blunts my appetite from what I recall but Im weird. I thought EPI was overrated and caused way too much lethargy.
    Have yet to try epi, kind of planned on trying it for next summer's cut. You have any more feedback you can give me on it? When you say overrated do mean that the benefits didn't out weigh the sides? Or did you just not respond entirely?
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    Sup man. For me personally, I just thought it was SOMEWHAT weak and with the morbidly lethargic sides I got, I wasnt a fan. I am in the minority though bro, so dont take my input here as gospel. MOST look at Epi as the Holy Grail of PH's. Then again, maybe that's just it, when you've run Var (and other gear) so many times like I have. MOST PH"s become a joke in comparison. At least that's been my experience.

    Ironically enough, Furazadrol in high doses (350-400) was more impressive to me than EPI with no virtually sides. Again, Im NOT the PH-king so please do your homework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift

    Have yet to try epi, kind of planned on trying it for next summer's cut. You have any more feedback you can give me on it? When you say overrated do mean that the benefits didn't out weigh the sides? Or did you just not respond entirely?
    Bro I think you're gonna love epi if u respond like me. No lethargy, increase in appetite, no back pumps, crazy muscle pumps I mean full of blood, leaning out and better strength gains then I have on SD, plus super dry gains. Lol maybe I'm just a hyper responder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Sup man. For me personally, I just thought it was weak. I am in the minority though bro, so dont take my input here as gospel. MOST look at Epi as the Holy Grail of PH's. Then again, maybe that's just it, when you've run Var (and other gear) so many times like I have. MOST PH"s become a joke in comparison. At least that's been my experience.

    Ironically enough, Furazadrol in high doses (350-400) was more impressive to me than EPI with no virtually sides. Again, Im NOT the PH-king so please do your homework.

    Good luck with your run
    I'm thinking I'm gonna have to high dose some var for my winter lean bulk
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    Most people DO love Epi

    Im the odd ball here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Bro I think you're gonna love epi if u respond like me. No lethargy, increase in appetite, no back pumps, crazy muscle pumps I mean full of blood, leaning out and better strength gains then I have on SD, plus super dry gains. Lol maybe I'm just a hyper responder.
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    Var = Filet Mignon
    Epi = White Castles Slider



    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I'm thinking I'm gonna have to high dose some var for my winter lean bulk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Var = Filet Mignon
    Epi = White Castles Slider


    Seems like some sweet tits hehe. What dose would u run, I'm running a SD/Prop/NPP 10 week cycle?
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    60 mg/day is all you need for a great ride.

    HIGH DOSE is fun but the sides become more apparent so I keep it at 60 and for 10 weeks (I take TUDCA and Im on TRT)

    Clean an virtually side free
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    60 mg/day is all you need for a great ride.

    HIGH DOSE is fun but the sides become more apparent so I keep it at 60 and for 10 weeks (I take TUDCA and Im on TRT)

    Clean an virtually side free
    So like 60mg for 6 weeks would b good?
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    Thanks for the input whacked, I think I may still give it a shot though. If I do it will probably only be a kicker anyway... ;-)
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    Here's the rub with Var (and most orals as far as Im concerned). While it is the crème de la crème of Orals (IMO), it's one down side is that it takes 1.5-2 weeks for me to really notice much. Im not a fan of 6 week cycles in general as I think allowing the drug to "do its thing" for a period of time will better support long term gains and better gains overall. This is based solely on personal anecdotal insight.

    Also, keep in mind im on TRT so I have no HPTA concerns but even when I did, I still ran 8-10-12 weekers; of course always augmented with health-conscience ancillaries (liver, kidney, BP and lipid profile supportive supps).

    I take a copius amount of supps but feel the expense is worth it as it allows me to run longer cycles quelling many of the typical deleterious sides/risks that accompany gear-use.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    So like 60mg for 6 weeks would b good?
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    Thanks for the input whacked, I think I may still give it a shot though. If I do it will probably only be a kicker anyway... ;-)
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