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    Hey guys,

    Ive decided i want to try an ostarine cycle but have a few questions i would like some advice on. Im going to be using it to lean bulk. Ive never taken AAS or Sarms before. I started a cycle of Andormass but injured myself a week in.

    Firstly, im thinking about running 25mg/day for 4-6 weeks. Do any issues/side effects start to emerge with a six week cycle? id like to do 6 but if its best i'll just keep it short and sweet?

    Secondly, ive toyed with the idea of stacking it with PES Anabeta for increased gains. Will this provide me with any benefits or is there no point? Ive also got 3 weeks of Andromass v2 i could work in with it.

    Also, since osta raises estrogen, should i use an AI (erase or triazole) during the cycle or wait until after?


    Much Appreciated.

    Doc.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    Hey guys,

    Ive decided i want to try an ostarine cycle but have a few questions i would like some advice on. Im going to be using it to lean bulk. Ive never taken AAS or Sarms before. I started a cycle of Andormass but injured myself a week in.

    Firstly, im thinking about running 25mg/day for 4-6 weeks. Do any issues/side effects start to emerge with a six week cycle? id like to do 6 but if its best i'll just keep it short and sweet?

    Secondly, ive toyed with the idea of stacking it with PES Anabeta for increased gains. Will this provide me with any benefits or is there no point? Ive also got 3 weeks of Andromass v2 i could work in with it.

    Also, since osta raises estrogen, should i use an AI (erase or triazole) during the cycle or wait until after?


    Much Appreciated.

    Doc.
    First: Don't stack ABE or AB , save it for PCT , 25mg a day ED is good for 6-8 weeks , if its a research chem (cheaper and without hyped fillers) better. Now , for pct , you will need Erase+DAA 4-6 weeks , and throw in AB or ABE in PCT to keep gains and help with test and cortisol ratios , in the lean bulk department Osta has shown to yield around 6-9lbs of lean mass and lean you out a bit , but it takes around 2 weeks to kick in for many. Take it stand alone , don't stack it with anything and you should be good to go.
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  3. Jahcuree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic
    Hey guys,

    Ive decided i want to try an ostarine cycle but have a few questions i would like some advice on. Im going to be using it to lean bulk. Ive never taken AAS or Sarms before. I started a cycle of Andormass but injured myself a week in.

    Firstly, im thinking about running 25mg/day for 4-6 weeks. Do any issues/side effects start to emerge with a six week cycle? id like to do 6 but if its best i'll just keep it short and sweet?

    Secondly, ive toyed with the idea of stacking it with PES Anabeta for increased gains. Will this provide me with any benefits or is there no point? Ive also got 3 weeks of Andromass v2 i could work in with it.

    Also, since osta raises estrogen, should i use an AI (erase or triazole) during the cycle or wait until after?

    Much Appreciated.

    Doc.
    Hope you've got a serm for pct.

  4. No SERM needed for osta at 25mg ED for 8 weeks , but recommended to have one on hand just in case you DO get shut down , pretty cheap anyway.
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  5. I'm using forma stanzol ED (7 pumps) with 20/13mg osta for 5 weeks, intimidate also. Totally not gonna use any SERM or PCT for that. but yeah, I incorporated an anti-estrogen, and forma is a pretty good stacker in general as well, so it should work well. Also using Reduce XT for cortisol for 4 of the weeks. I just used triazole for the 4 weeks of PCT (should have some runover into the osta cycle matter of fact) and that was good stuff as well, but better to switch it up in my case since I was on it for a month already.....
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  6. Enobosarm (ostarine) is fairly new and side effects have been negligible and well tolerated though no data beyond 16 weeks is available yet. Great drug for reducing lipodystrophy and inhibition of catabolic muscle wasting. I've seen great effects in cancer patients (current indication for enobosarm) to reduce cachexia. I'm interested to hear how well it works for you.
  7. Jahcuree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza
    No SERM needed for osta at 25mg ED for 8 weeks , but recommended to have one on hand just in case you DO get shut down , pretty cheap anyway.
    Don't agree with this. I've seen countless peoples bloods being shut down after around 8 weeks at 20-25mgs

    Which is why I have had a bottle sitting on my shelf for about 4 months that I will probably never use.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Jahcuree

    Don't agree with this. I've seen countless peoples bloods being shut down after around 8 weeks at 20-25mgs

    Which is why I have had a bottle sitting on my shelf for about 4 months that I will probably never use.
    If it binds with the androgen receptor and interacts with it, it will affect hpta function.
  9. Jahcuree
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    If it binds with the androgen receptor and interacts with it, it will affect hpta function.
    Exactly why I don't understand people using this in PCT at all.

  10. Because they are stupid

  11. People are not necessarily using it IN PCT.....but AFTER PCT or any random time with other stuff that is non-suppressive and/or natural test boosting. at 13-20 mgs for 4-6 weeks, along with AI and solid test booster....no F-in way you are gonna be suppressed to any great degree. that is just not logical....perhaps to a very minor degree....
  12. Jahcuree
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
    People are not necessarily using it IN PCT.....but AFTER PCT or any random time with other stuff that is non-suppressive and/or natural test boosting. at 13-20 mgs for 4-6 weeks, along with AI and solid test booster....no F-in way you are gonna be suppressed to any great degree. that is just not logical....perhaps to a very minor degree....
    Wasn't necessarily referring to you,but there ARE others on this board using it in PCT.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Jahcuree View Post
    Wasn't necessarily referring to you,but there ARE others on this board using it in PCT.
    As I said yesterday, I had contemplated using the lower dose osta in PCT myself.....but thought the better of it since you don't want to fuq up your PCT....better off not to chance it. maybe 3-6mg might be fine in PCT? but hard to know at this point....I won't bash anybody who does low dose osta in PCT, but then again I decided it was a bad idea in my estimations.

  14. imma run it 6mgs in pct
    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    As I said yesterday, I had contemplated using the lower dose osta in PCT myself.....but thought the better of it since you don't want to fuq up your PCT....better off not to chance it. maybe 3-6mg might be fine in PCT? but hard to know at this point....I won't bash anybody who does low dose osta in PCT, but then again I decided it was a bad idea in my estimations.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    imma run it 6mgs in pct
    I figure you'd be alright.....but I'm no blood test lol
  16. Jahcuree
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    I figure you'd be alright.....but I'm no blood test lol
    I hope that you will be alright

  17. I am concerned that some of the above comments may cause incorrect assumptions about Ostarine.
    The very first day Ostarine was released, I ran Ostarine multiple times at different doses, and different time durations and ran blood tests. My experience is as follows:

    25 mg, for extended time, like 2-3 months, does cause minor shutdown, of which one week of PCT can bring you back to normal. That has been my experience.

    I have also ran during PCT as a taper. I ran serm and DAA the entire time.
    Wk 1=25
    Wk 2=12.5
    Wk 3=6.25
    Wk 4=6.25
    Wk5=Continued Serm and DAA
    Wk6=Continued Serm and DAA
    The results are a 20% increase in maintaining gains. That has been my experience.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Jahcuree View Post
    Don't agree with this. I've seen countless peoples bloods being shut down after around 8 weeks at 20-25mgs

    Which is why I have had a bottle sitting on my shelf for about 4 months that I will probably never use.
    Lol no idea why , I followed 4 logs of 4 different people , running 25mg ED (some did a bit higher for some days to test but came back to 25mg) for 8 weeks and none of them had shutdown after cycle and OTC pct was done...should you present some evidence that I am wrong I would gladly discuss that with you.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by grega60438
    I am concerned that some of the above comments may cause incorrect assumptions about Ostarine.
    The very first day Ostarine was released, I ran Ostarine multiple times at different doses, and different time durations and ran blood tests. My experience is as follows:

    25 mg, for extended time, like 2-3 months, does cause minor shutdown, of which one week of PCT can bring you back to normal. That has been my experience.

    I have also ran during PCT as a taper. I ran serm and DAA the entire time.
    Wk 1=25
    Wk 2=12.5
    Wk 3=6.25
    Wk 4=6.25
    Wk5=Continued Serm and DAA
    Wk6=Continued Serm and DAA
    The results are a 20% increase in maintaining gains. That has been my experience.
    Well there you go....can't argue with actual test results.

  20. at 100.00 a bottle osta is not cheap. i would like to know if it realy shuts test down and if daa will help pick it back up.let the experts decide and would love real world imput

  21. Quote Originally Posted by willib View Post
    at 100.00 a bottle osta is not cheap. i would like to know if it realy shuts test down and if daa will help pick it back up.let the experts decide and would love real world imput
    Osta is quite cheap and for 8 weeks if you know where to buy it (at 25mg a day ED)...without hyped fillers and high pricing for brand name.
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  22. where and thanks

  23. Quote Originally Posted by grega60438 View Post
    I am concerned that some of the above comments may cause incorrect assumptions about Ostarine.
    The very first day Ostarine was released, I ran Ostarine multiple times at different doses, and different time durations and ran blood tests. My experience is as follows:

    25 mg, for extended time, like 2-3 months, does cause minor shutdown, of which one week of PCT can bring you back to normal. That has been my experience.

    I have also ran during PCT as a taper. I ran serm and DAA the entire time.
    Wk 1=25
    Wk 2=12.5
    Wk 3=6.25
    Wk 4=6.25
    Wk5=Continued Serm and DAA
    Wk6=Continued Serm and DAA
    The results are a 20% increase in maintaining gains. That has been my experience.
    Thanks,

    So it sounds like a four to six week run should be fine without any issues. Is this correct? The only issues ive seen from blood work was slightly elevated e2. So if i use triazole during the last two weeks of the cycle and first two weeks after, along with Daa, I figure i shuuld have any elevated e2 lowered and any slight test drops will increase.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    Thanks,

    So it sounds like a four to six week run should be fine without any issues. Is this correct? The only issues ive seen from blood work was slightly elevated e2. So if i use triazole during the last two weeks of the cycle and first two weeks after, along with Daa, I figure i shuuld have any elevated e2 lowered and any slight test drops will increase.
    You really didn't get it did yah? Osta doesnt raise Estrogen...and he used in PCT!!! you are not in pct , you can use it 8 weeks as standalone AAS without any problem and just use erase and daa as pct...God...
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    You really didn't get it did yah? Osta doesnt raise Estrogen...and he used in PCT!!! you are not in pct , you can use it 8 weeks as standalone AAS without any problem and just use erase and daa as pct...God...
    hahahahahahahaha ive been waiting for you to crack.
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751
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