Opinions on CEL P-Plex and Iron Labs Epi Xtreme stacking
- 05-25-2012, 04:24 PM
- 05-25-2012, 04:38 PM
05-25-2012, 04:49 PM
Thanks, but every time I try to lose weight muscle and strength goes with it. It's like my chemistry functions best when I'm built like Tank Abbott lol
05-25-2012, 05:09 PM
05-25-2012, 06:02 PM
05-25-2012, 08:37 PM
05-26-2012, 11:52 AM
05-26-2012, 12:03 PM
No only epistane, I've never been interested in phera nor would bother looking for it since its banned. I'd do a bridge though of the 2, whatever effective dose of the phera u prefer, with 4 weeks of epi at 40/40/50/50 with phera overlapping 2 weeks.Originally Posted by Vick
05-26-2012, 12:42 PM
05-26-2012, 01:05 PM
05-26-2012, 01:14 PM
05-26-2012, 01:23 PM
Even updates r fine like weight gains, PRs, bodyfat changes, that's all I'm really interested in.Originally Posted by Vick
05-26-2012, 02:12 PM
05-26-2012, 02:13 PM
05-26-2012, 04:28 PM
05-26-2012, 04:31 PM
Because its a dumb combo.Originally Posted by Vick
Some epi will metabolize into phera in the body.
But if I did it, 20- 30mg pp, 30-40mg of epi.
05-26-2012, 04:33 PM
Phera is bad ass, if op really wants strength gains, he should stack 20mg sd, with 30mg pp.Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed
BOOM! Catch a case of SWOLEOSIS
05-26-2012, 08:03 PM
You're right when heat is involved which of course it would b, epi turns into DMT. Lol don't leave that sh*t in a hot car.Originally Posted by jbryand101b
05-26-2012, 08:04 PM
05-26-2012, 11:12 PM
5/26 My Helios came in so started that at only 25 units and got the shakes. I wonder how that is going to play into the Phera/Havoc bridge. Starting at 209 lbs, 20% bf, deadlift 495 1rm.
5/27 Took the Helios around 6pm and kept me up til 4am, never again. Started first thing in the morning at 50 units.
5/28 Wasn't feeling the 50 units for some reason so bumped it to 100 units and still not really feeling it. Weird thing is when I lay down and relax is when it starts working lol.
5/29 Keeping the Helios at 100 units, really felt it today, not sure how evenly it's dosed in the vial with the yohimbine. I also started 30mg Phera preworkout and 90 minutes went by like nothing. Time flies when you're having fun. I found out about the class 1 and 2 PHs when stacking on my own and apparently EPI is best with M1T and Phera best with Sdrol, so I'm gonna order 2 more lol.
Last edited by Vick; 05-30-2012 at 11:15 AM. Reason: LOG
05-30-2012, 10:54 PM
Today I opened the caps and upped the dose to 40mg of Phera and keeping the Helios at 1ml and feeling great.
05-30-2012, 10:56 PM
05-30-2012, 10:59 PM
05-30-2012, 11:05 PM
05-30-2012, 11:10 PM
Jbry keeps on posting about phera/sd. Is he for serious? I mean, I understand the complications of two methylated compounds (even though epi-phera would be similar, though less sides with epi) but that could be some serious muscle.
Has anybody run Phera/Sd? Logs of it?
05-30-2012, 11:21 PM
05-31-2012, 11:20 AM
05-31-2012, 11:30 AM
epi/phera... doesnt make sense... read up more on the compounds... pretty sure jbry would agree it is not a good combo.
Log of EPIC by FRL - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/202576-should-epic-frl.html
05-31-2012, 11:46 AM
Yeah I agree and jbry already said that cuz some of epi does metabolize into phera already.Originally Posted by StangBanger
05-31-2012, 11:47 AM
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