anyone done a stack with epi??

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  1. wanaBJacked
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    anyone done a stack with epi??


    quick question.

    for my next cycle that I'm going to start in 3 weeks is going to be Havoc. I'm trying to cut and want to stack it with something un methylated. I've read a furuza product is good or p-stanz. just not sure. any suggestions would be great.

    not sure about dosing because it depends of whether i'm going to run epi solo or not

    stats are

    23
    5'10
    186lbs
    10%bf want to drop to 9 or 8 before I start.

    I am going to preload with cel cycle asst and use it through out pct .
    I'm already taking triflex for my joints
    for pct going to use tamaxifen 40/40/20/20, erase, and daa, thinking about adding 6oxo if that's necessary


  2. trenavar
    Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked View Post
    quick question.

    for my next cycle that I'm going to start in 3 weeks is going to be Havoc. I'm trying to cut and want to stack it with something un methylated. I've read a furuza product is good or p-stanz. just not sure. any suggestions would be great.

    not sure about dosing because it depends of whether i'm going to run epi solo or not

    stats are

    23
    5'10
    186lbs
    10%bf want to drop to 9 or 8 before I start.

    I am going to preload with cel cycle asst and use it through out pct .
    I'm already taking triflex for my joints
    for pct going to use tamaxifen 40/40/20/20, erase, and daa, thinking about adding 6oxo if that's necessary

  3. 5aohp would work good for a cut stack.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    5aohp would work good for a cut stack.
    Not so sure on this as I thought 5aohp was a dht precursor. This would be one dry cycle. But if you can handle it it'll be really lean.
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  5. im going to be running a epi/trenazone stack starting in about 10 days. real excited about it.

  6. I'd say trenavar... most promising non methyl for big gains

  7. trenazone sounds like the way to go

  8. your pct doses are hi

    20/20/10/10

  9. I'm going with Epi and stano drol and looking to add something else maybe trenazone or faruza. Obviously it's for a Recomp. Never used trenazone or faruza.
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  10. wanaBJacked
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    Would trenavar help with a cut?
    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    I'd say trenavar... most promising non methyl for big gains

  11. i wouldnt do epi/furuza/and stano thats kinda crazy lol. Run epi trenavar and maybe last 4 weeks high dosed stano or furuza
    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    I'm going with Epi and stano drol and looking to add something else maybe trenazone or faruza. Obviously it's for a Recomp. Never used trenazone or faruza.
  12. wanaBJacked
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    oh are they? i thought tomoxifen citarte doesnt absorb as well as real nolva so it was suppose to be around there
    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMode 1 View Post
    your pct doses are hi

    20/20/10/10

  13. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    I'm going with Epi and stano drol and looking to add something else maybe trenazone or faruza. Obviously it's for a Recomp. Never used trenazone or faruza.
    Im doin epi+stano+11oXo.
    Furuza is similar to 11oxo except is that furuz is supposed to help more with overall bf, whereas the 11oxo targets abs and chest(visceral fat)

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    i wouldnt do epi/furuza/and stano thats kinda crazy lol. Run epi trenavar and maybe last 4 weeks high dosed stano or furuza
    I figured it was to much lol. I think I'll go with epi and stano for 6 weeks and save trenavar (which I don't have lol) for another cycle. I brought it up bcause I read some where someone was doing that cycle.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked View Post
    oh are they? i thought tomoxifen citarte doesnt absorb as well as real nolva so it was suppose to be around there
    some people go up to 40mg(for stronger compounds), but for a somewhat mild epi stack, 20 should be fine.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    i wouldnt do epi/furuza/and stano thats kinda crazy lol. Run epi trenavar and maybe last 4 weeks high dosed stano or furuza
    i dont think a stack of 3 mild compounds(only one of which is methyl) is crazy at all.
  17. wanaBJacked
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    I think this would be a little rough on the joint for me. would get cut as hell but would be painful near the end
    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Not so sure on this as I thought 5aohp was a dht precursor. This would be one dry cycle. But if you can handle it it'll be really lean.
  18. wanaBJacked
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    gotcha, you think for the first 3 days for to 40 then drop to 20?
    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMode 1 View Post
    some people go up to 40mg(for stronger compounds), but for a somewhat mild epi stack, 20 should be fine.
  19. wanaBJacked
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    have you ever used 11 oxo? my friend used it and he said it didnt do anything. i'm not sure about his dosing though.
    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMode 1 View Post
    Im doin epi+stano+11oXo.
    Furuza is similar to 11oxo except is that furuz is supposed to help more with overall bf, whereas the 11oxo targets abs and chest(visceral fat)

  20. 3 dht based compounds was my concern and that furuza alone has such drastic changes on hdl/ldl levels it seems excessive, uneeded, and just stupid. Methylation(liver) isnt the only health concern, and you dont need that epi by itself is awesome, much less both stano and furuza??? but keep giving ****ty advice
    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMode 1 View Post
    i dont think a stack of 3 mild compounds(only one of which is methyl) is crazy at all.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked View Post
    gotcha, you think for the first 3 days for to 40 then drop to 20?
    perhaps for a 3-5 days. i usually stick with 20, but you Could start with 40.

    i have more experience with clomid then nolva personally. Maybe a pct expert can chime in and answer whether starting with 40 for a few days would be benefical? or just overkill for a mild cycle?
  22. wanaBJacked
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    what's your dosing going to be?
    Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347 View Post
    im going to be running a epi/trenazone stack starting in about 10 days. real excited about it.

  23. read the sticky pct why how what
    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMode 1 View Post
    perhaps for a 3-5 days. i usually stick with 20, but you Could start with 40.

    i have more experience with clomid then nolva personally. Maybe a pct expert can chime in and answer whether starting with 40 for a few days would be benefical? or just overkill for a mild cycle?

  24. thats what you should run
    Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked View Post
    what's your dosing going to be?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked
    quick question.

    for my next cycle that I'm going to start in 3 weeks is going to be Havoc. I'm trying to cut and want to stack it with something un methylated. I've read a furuza product is good or p-stanz. just not sure. any suggestions would be great.

    not sure about dosing because it depends of whether i'm going to run epi solo or not

    stats are

    23
    5'10
    186lbs
    10%bf want to drop to 9 or 8 before I start.

    I am going to preload with cel cycle asst and use it through out pct .
    I'm already taking triflex for my joints
    for pct going to use tamaxifen 40/40/20/20, erase, and daa, thinking about adding 6oxo if that's necessary
    Mate your states are nearly identical to mine before I started Epi... Check out my log...I'm three weeks in and sitting at 193
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    3 dht based compounds was my concern and that furuza alone has such drastic changes on hdl/ldl levels it seems excessive, uneeded, and just stupid. Methylation(liver) isnt the only health concern, and you dont need that epi by itself is awesome, much less both stano and furuza??? but keep giving ****ty advice
    lmfao. ok, you go ahead and run your epi standalone at like 20mg for 3.5 weeks prolly.
    when you try some stronger stacks, ull eventually need more to match that "on" feeling. i didnt suggest anything unhealthy. i get bloods for any cycle, regardless of compounds, mgs, or cycle lengths

  27. man I would never run epi at 20 mg for 3.5 weeks thats retartded but as you see listed above some user ran epi solo higher dosed im sure and had great results with just epi. These are steroids man not candies. The guy says he had awesome results with only 1 compound. You dont always need three compound when one or two will do, especially 3 hdt based man. Good for you on getting bloods btw
    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMode 1 View Post
    lmfao. ok, you go ahead and run your epi standalone at like 20mg for 3.5 weeks prolly.
    when you try some stronger stacks, ull eventually need more to match that "on" feeling. i didnt suggest anything unhealthy. i get bloods for any cycle, regardless of compounds, mgs, or cycle lengths
  28. wanaBJacked
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    will do thanks man.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Mate your states are nearly identical to mine before I started Epi... Check out my log...I'm three weeks in and sitting at 193

  29. Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked View Post
    have you ever used 11 oxo? my friend used it and he said it didnt do anything. i'm not sure about his dosing though.
    he prolly only dosed it at like 225. no, i havent used it yet, starting my cycle in bout 2 weeks. most say 600-900 yields great results. im gonna start at 600 and taper up
  30. wanaBJacked
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    let me know how you like it
    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMode 1 View Post
    he prolly only dosed it at like 225. no, i havent used it yet, starting my cycle in bout 2 weeks. most say 600-900 yields great results. im gonna start at 600 and taper up
  31. wanaBJacked
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    Ya i'm really considering it just I know less about tren than i do with something like furuza which means I know nothing lol. and I am not going to take something without knowing as much as i can about it.
    Are you suggesting trenazone or trenavar?
    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    thats what you should run

  32. Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk
    I'd say trenavar... most promising non methyl for big gains
    Did you run it yet cm?
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  33. Epi 30-40mg weeks 1-6
    trenazone weeks 4-8
    Fura weeks 7-10

    Bam.
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  34. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    Epi 30-40mg weeks 1-6
    trenazone weeks 4-8
    Fura weeks 7-10

    Bam.
    I'm running Epi/katanadrol right now...think I can throw in some trenazone towards the end?
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  35. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88

    I'm running Epi/katanadrol right now...think I can throw in some trenazone towards the end?
    Sure
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  36. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    Sure
    Man... I think I might! I've got stood pct set up so think 10 wks would be ok... What about 12..

    Epi wk 1-6
    KDrol wk 3-8
    Trenazone wk 7-12 or 6-11???
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  37. epi 30/40/40/40/40/40

    trenazone 1/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5

    might bump the tren to 2ml the last two weeks, ive read that alot of guys are getting great results with it at that dose.
  38. wanaBJacked
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    thanks alot for your input man.

    what're you doing for pct?
    Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347 View Post
    epi 30/40/40/40/40/40

    trenazone 1/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5

    might bump the tren to 2ml the last two weeks, ive read that alot of guys are getting great results with it at that dose.
  39. wanaBJacked
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    why only running tren for 4 weeks? I'm just wondering because I have not done much research on tren products yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Epi 30-40mg weeks 1-6
    trenazone weeks 4-8
    Fura weeks 7-10

    Bam.

  40. going to use clomid, my first time with clomid but it seems the right choice with this cycle.
  

  
 

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