X-Tren Havoc/Epi cycle

[holtman22]

Im about to start a 6 week Havoc/Epi cycle while also stacking X-tren on the 3rd week of Havoc. I was looking to dose the havoc at 20/20/20/20/20/20 And then adding a 3 week cycle of X-tren at 90/90/90. I will be using cycle assist along with daily vitamin, fish oil, glucosimine, and CLA. I currently have on hand a bottle of Power Lab Nutrition's PCT II and Novedex Xt. Would that be enough for a PCT or should I look into getting Clomid or any other SERM. I'm currently 190 looking to cut fat and gain lean muscle mass. Advice about the PCT/dosage would be much appreciated by anyone who's willing to help. Thanks

[n87]

You need clomid for Xtren PCT.

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[BeastMode 1]

You need clomid for Xtren PCT.

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Definitely. xtren shuts you down hardcore.

its pointless to run the xtren for 3 weeks, and your epi dose is too low.
if you wanna be on the cautious side do something like this:
epi 30/30/30/40/40
tren 60/60/90/90/90

six weeks would be ok too. but watever you do, run them straight. no need to bridge.

[BigBicepBill]

I'm running a very similar cycle of trenadrol/Havoc and personally agree with beastmode. i personally would run Havoc/EPI at 40mg ED all 6 weeks. and go with Beastmodes tren layout. i like CEL cycle assist while on and definitely run nolva along with a PCT. Nolva should be 20/20/10/10

[holtman22]

I just picked up liquid letro would I still be required to take a Serm some say it's unecessary because your estrogen levels are already supressed

[BigBicepBill]

I just picked up liquid letro would I still be required to take a Serm some say it's unecessary because your estrogen levels are already supressed

i would still run nolva to be on the safe side along with the letro

[BeastMode 1]

I just picked up liquid letro would I still be required to take a Serm some say it's unecessary because your estrogen levels are already supressed

you prolly wont need the letro. just get Erase.
you also should grab either p5p or cabergoline if your using the tren, as prolactin issues may arise.

[BeastMode 1]

just to clear up...having letro on hand is always a good idea. but i would save it and Only Run if gyno flares up. letro def has alota side effects, u dont wanna mess round with it unless u need to.