I have ran 1ad and 1test transdermally on a couple occassions. I always had more success with the 1ad. This time I decided to up the 1test transdermal dose from 400mgs a day to 600mgs a day. I believe this will help with the gains (although the lethargy may be a bitch). Anyone out there experiment with 1test transdermal doses of 600mgs or above a day?