blood test for hrt ..period to wait after ph cycle

[jodenem99]

hello i am currently doing a 6 wk cycle of havoc .. i have pct set up including tamox...daa... hcgenerate and erase .. i want to have a blood test done after pct to possibly start hrt ..how long should i wait after pct to have the blood test done ..thank you

 

[natandrb]

If you're truly test deficient, it'll show up no matter when you test (so long as you're not still on cycle). And if you're not, and you do your PCT right, you should be back to at least within acceptable levels. Not saying you should, but if you're dead set on getting on HRT, don't do any PCT, wait a week after cycle (add in some S-drol to really shut you down) and go get tested, you'll get whatever you want, and at 53, the ultra low test levels wouldn't raise too many eyebrows.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

so say you have a primary, and the primary must refer you to anybody else (specialists)....do you get the blood test at your primary? then they refer you to an endo and send your results over? or do you just get a referral to an endo and then get the testing done at the endo? this is important for the timing of course....do you want to be really shutdown when seeing the primary? or wait to be shutdown when seeing the endo?

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

primary will prob do it cause they want money. lol so endo may do another cause they want money. at this age there is no reason to see an endo though. i would find it unusual if they sent you to one. all the docs around here have low t posters on the wall. i know cause i take my dad and grandmother sometimes. i personally dont use doctors any more. u know why. hell i may never go to another one.

yeah I try to avoid them like the plague ......but every once in a while you have to go see them. this is one of those cases, hopefully this wacko primary I try to avoid will be compliant with my demands...i mean desires lol....I'll ask his front desk lady next time I pass by there, she should know if he is into the TRT thing or not. they always want me to give them blood to test, so they should be thrilled. I'll tell her I am very busy and need to wait until "date xxx" to come in....when in reality I am waiting to be shut down hard good topic OP!

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

i hate this slow-ass*d dial-up. i'd like to move into the 21'st century but i cant even get broadband here. but ayway, good idea, tell em your in a hurry and will come back. oh yeah i've been meaning to tell you, you're funny as f*ck. lol

LMFAO....I was gonna say....you seem like on a tape delay sometimes....most of the other guys are quick to respond, but your responses are slower and sometimes don't come until the next day ......but yeah, I figure after 6 weeks AHv3, 6 weeks epi, 6 weeks trenazone/Pstanz/Ahv3 I should be pretty shutdown....only bad part? I have been on dermacrine the entire time....which may fuq things up, but I figure if I stop the dermacrine a week or two before I go to test....should be fine. I'll go right at the tail end of the cycle(s) and before starting PCT. either way at my age they should be happy to prescribe it to me...as you say, they want the fuqin money.....

 

[natandrb]

epi will not show up as testosterone on a blood test.

Just out of curiosity, how would epi not produce increased test levels on a blood test? Does epi not lead to any increase in serum test levels?

 

[Conte]

Just right after the cycle I think there is only PCT or TRT and not blood test.
I wouldn’t go for blood test after cycle because the results usually may not be reliable. It’s like taking ATD for one month and right after you got your blood results with completely mislead results.
Lets say you get your results after a cycle and you find your E2 at normal levels or even low. So what does this mean? No PCT or TRT? Will E2 levels be the same after 20 days?
I would go for blood test only just 15 days after my PCT or one month after the start of my TRT. Just to check my levels before start thinking about something new.
That’s my opinion.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

we're wanting to tank the testosterone levels, looking for the WORST possible time to test so to speak. they see 56 total test? good chance you will get TRT I suppose......

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

and yeah, none of this stuff raises your test....it will come up as whatever it is on the results, which are all things they are not testing for. not like they are gonna go looking for the epi or SD....they look at your test/estrogen and those will be way out of whack....test will be tanked and estrogen probably high provided you stop your AI....

 

[123jrc123]

hello i am currently doing a 6 wk cycle of havoc .. i have pct set up including tamox...daa... hcgenerate and erase .. i want to have a blood test done after pct to possibly start hrt ..how long should i wait after pct to have the blood test done ..thank you

A friend of mine tried for a long, long time to get trt but the docs would not give it to him cause he had a tt of 315 (range of 300 to 1000) even though he had all the symptoms....still a big no.

After several atempts at talking with several docs ($$$$) he came to me and ask me what to do. I told him:

"get some gear and take it for atleast 4 months (he took t cyp @ 500 mgs ew)...do not workout during said time and eat very little.....upon taking last injection start the crappiest life style you can think of. Sleep as little as possible, eat very little healthy fats, do tons and tons of very high intense cardio (not kidding), eat very little but when you do eat.......eat junk food such as cake, icecreame etc...etc..(no whole foods what so ever). Do anything and everything that will bring on stress (again....not kidding). Stress along with the other will cause even the healthiest persons t to drop like a rock. Four weeks of the "very unhealthy" lifestyle after last injection...........lol.......go to doc and do blood work".

My buddy did what I suggested and got trt the very next doc visit cause his tt came in at 120's (range 300 to 1000) and his E was in the 90's (range >55 being out of range). They started him off with t cyp @ 200mg e2w and then raised it shortly after to 150mg ew...........not sure what his scedule is now........

BTW, I would not suggest anyone go on trt unless they need it.

IMO.......if a person wants to use AAS I would say do cycles and a good pct every so often. That way you keep your health (to a certain point....opinions vary) cause most (some can....but not many) can never restart their natty t after being on trt for "x" number of time. Not to mention receptor saturation of long term use without breaks.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

personally I would hoard up the test they give me for TRT....and cycle it, say you get 1 years worth but only cycle it 6 months of the year split up in separate cycles. for instance if you got 150-200 per week? you'd cycle double that, 300-400 per week while "on" and do PCT/off time and/or PH's/designers the other 6 months. or you could stack the PH's with the test of course as well. but I would not want to actually be on TRT...no....

 

[smt1]

If you're truly test deficient, it'll show up no matter when you test (so long as you're not still on cycle). And if you're not, and you do your PCT right, you should be back to at least within acceptable levels. Not saying you should, but if you're dead set on getting on HRT, don't do any PCT, wait a week after cycle (add in some S-drol to really shut you down) and go get tested, you'll get whatever you want, and at 53, the ultra low test levels wouldn't raise too many eyebrows.

Elevated liver enzymes would probably be suspicious.

 

[smt1]

Just out of curiosity, how would epi not produce increased test levels on a blood test? Does epi not lead to any increase in serum test levels?

Epi leads to an increase of.... serum epi levels, and lowered testosterone levels (depending on dosage of course). This is pretty much true of any steroid, unless you're taking something like a prohormone to test itself (like old school 4-AD).

 

[jodenem99]

hi i didnt know if the epi would show elevated test during cycle .. or seeing as i would be using test boosters during pct i didnt know how much that would raise my test levels .. i did want to see what my normal test level was without being on cycle or pct .. so i guess the question should have been how long would it take after pct to be at normal test level ,or how long would it take for all products to be cleared from my system .. i like the idea of saving enough for a couple good cycles throught the yr in stead of being on trt all yr .. thanks for all the imput