Piss test?

[thehulk2203]

So i have done research on how long a cycle stays in your system and there half life and all that but my question is piss test have a different life or half life compared to blood test? Is there a difference?To me it seems that a piss test wouldnt last as long maybe a week or so.

[RH2012]

it depend on the steroid. i have read that deca can be detected up to a year because of the long ester. an oral will be out of ur system in a day or 2.

[thehulk2203]

lets say dbol for 4weeks at 40mg/daily
test 750mg/weekly for 12weeks

[RH2012]

the dbol will be undetectable in a day or 2, i believe. what ester does the test have? cypionate or enanthate wil be in ur system for 2-4 weeks. the way they test for testosterone is the epitestosterone to testosterone ratio. they will allow like a 6:1. most guys can use up to 400mg a week and pass the test. this is one way athletes are gettin away with it.

[thehulk2203]

oh ok and its test 250enanthate
also one more question does clomid matter on the piss test

[RH2012]

no. they dont test for that.

[thehulk2203]

awesome you my friend have been very helpful thanks!

[Rodja]

the dbol will be undetectable in a day or 2, i believe. what ester does the test have? cypionate or enanthate wil be in ur system for 2-4 weeks. the way they test for testosterone is the epitestosterone to testosterone ratio. they will allow like a 6:1. most guys can use up to 400mg a week and pass the test. this is one way athletes are gettin away with it.

This is completely wrong. Exogenous test will raise the test level (obviously), but it does not increase epitest. 150mg/week is enough to trigger a positive UA in a hypogonadic subject.

oh ok and its test 250enanthate
also one more question does clomid matter on the piss test

Clomid is also tested as is every other SERM and AI.

[alwaysfirst]

the dbol will be undetectable in a day or 2, i believe. what ester does the test have? cypionate or enanthate wil be in ur system for 2-4 weeks. the way they test for testosterone is the epitestosterone to testosterone ratio. they will allow like a 6:1. most guys can use up to 400mg a week and pass the test. this is one way athletes are gettin away with it.

Most orals will be out in about 2 weeks, but I know guys that passed in only 1 week. 400mg of test a week will fail you, more like 150 will be good.

[thehulk2203]

Most orals will be out in about 2 weeks, but I know guys that passed in only 1 week. 400mg of test a week will fail you, more like 150 will be good.

dont really care about being on and getting tested just want to know how long before i will piss clean

[thehulk2203]

This is completely wrong. Exogenous test will raise the test level (obviously), but it does not increase epitest. 150mg/week is enough to trigger a positive UA in a hypogonadic subject.



Clomid is also tested as is every other SERM and AI.

so how long well it take to piss clean form using test250E 1-12weeks im on week 10 starting monday and the dbol at the end of this week thursday i was using40mg/daily but this week only 30mg

[Rodja]

so how long well it take to piss clean form using test250E 1-12weeks im on week 10 starting monday and the dbol at the end of this week thursday i was using40mg/daily but this week only 30mg

From the test, maybe late April or so. However, you still have the Clomid to worry about, too.

[thehulk2203]

yeah but i have til the end of july i think ill be good right? thanks for all the info this helps alot

[Rodja]

yeah but i have til the end of july i think ill be good right? thanks for all the info this helps alot

Potentially. I'm not sure of the latency period of Clomid, but I know that it has a fairly long half-life.

[thehulk2203]

well ill keep yall up dated if you want to know

[RH2012]

This is completely wrong. Exogenous test will raise the test level (obviously), but it does not increase epitest. 150mg/week is enough to trigger a positive UA in a hypogonadic subject.



Clomid is also tested as is every other SERM and AI.

this has been discussed at length before. the olympics may test for serms but i dont know of anybody else that does. also a normal man has a 2:1 ratio of test to epitest. they will allow a 6:1. so an average man can have 6 times more testosterone in his system and pass. it also depends on the ester. 400mg of test prop will raise blood levels more than enanthate. if 200mg per week of test e is a replacement dose of test then 400 would be no problem. of course this would take trial and error to determine exactly how much you can take and still pass a test.

[Rodja]

this has been discussed at length before. the olympics may test for serms but i dont know of anybody else that does. also a normal man has a 2:1 ratio of test to epitest. they will allow a 6:1. so an average man can have 6 times more testosterone in his system and pass. it also depends on the ester. 400mg of test prop will raise blood levels more than enanthate. if 200mg per week of test e is a replacement dose of test then 400 would be no problem. of course this would take trial and error to determine exactly how much you can take and still pass a test.

A normal man has a 1:1 ratio of T:E and 200mg of enanthate will trigger a positive test. This is what got both Chael Sonnen and Nate Marquardt into trouble the AC. Although they both had prescirptions for TRT, there levels were too high to be accepted in their pre/post-fight UA. Keep in mind that they were also clinically hypogonadic and 100-150mg/week brought their levels out of acceptable range.

[RH2012]

ok they lowered the limit to 4:1 it used to be 8:1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epitestosterone

It has been shown that exogenous administration of testosterone does not affect levels of epitestosterone in the body. As a result, tests to determine the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone in urine are used to find athletes who are doping.[3] Most persons have a ratio of about 1:1 testosterone to epitestosterone (T/E ratio) in their urine. However, it is not uncommon to find T/E ratios of up to 4:1 and even T/E ratios of 10:1 can be normal for some individuals[dubious – discuss]. T/E tests are most common because a person may naturally have high levels of testosterone, but even so average T/E ratios for the population in general tends close to 1:1.


On September 20, 2007 Floyd Landis was stripped of his title as winner of the Tour de France, and was subjected to a two year ban from professional racing after a second test showing an elevated T/E ratio. Test results from Floyd Landis' "A" test sample indicated that while the ratio was 11:1, his testosterone level was in the normal range and the problem was actually a deficient level of epitestosterone.[4] Landis won the 17th stage of the tour; however, tests taken immediately after the stage victory showed a T/E ratio of 11:1,[5] more than double the 4:1 imposed limit (recently lowered from prior limits of 8:1 and 6:1). On August 1, 2006, media reports said that synthetic testosterone had been detected in the A sample, using the carbon isotope ratio test CIR. The presence of synthetic testosterone means that some of the testosterone in Landis’s body came from an external source and was not naturally produced by his own system. These results conflict with Landis's public speculation that it was a natural occurrence.[6] Landis originally denied the charges, but in 2010 Landis admitted to doping during much of his career,[7] but continued to adamantly deny taking testosterone that would have led to the positive test in the 2006 Tour de France.[8]

[RH2012]

i am not an expert on any test for anabolics. just stuff i've read. since epitest is produced in the testes hcg should keep the testes producing it. i get what you are sayin. a hypogonadal man will not be producing much epitest so even a normal amount of test will fail you.

[Rodja]

i am not an expert on any test for anabolics. just stuff i've read. since epitest is produced in the testes hcg should keep the testes producing it. i get what you are sayin. a hypogonadal man will not be producing much epitest so even a normal amount of test will fail you.

Actually, it's the other way around; a hypogonadal man can take a small amount of test (~100mg/week) and still be within range. A normal man, though, will have his levels too high to be acceptable. Taking hCG itself can also trigger a UA (e.g. Brian Cushing).