1-Test or 4-AD with M5?
- 09-20-2004, 10:18 AM
1-Test or 4-AD with M5?
I'm doing 3 weeks M1t right now, got 9 more days left on it. I am planning on trying out this M5 (from CN) and i'm debating on whether to use 1-test or 4-AD Derm.
I'm gonna run it for only 2 weeks, and then cycle off with Nolva and maybe some Trib.
Also is 1-test as effective in trandermal form as it would be in cap/softgel?
Thanks in advance!
- 09-20-2004, 10:19 AM
- 09-20-2004, 11:01 AM
go transdermal, I would do 1-test and 4-ad together.
if you do m5 you will be running a methyl for a long time, could be hard on your liver.
09-20-2004, 11:47 AM
It would be a total of 5 weeks of Methyl. And i'm only at 10mg ED of M1t on these first 3 weeks anyways, so I should be okay in that department.
I did some research and am gonna go with 1-test/4-AD transdermal and mix it at home. I've used 4-AD dermal before and liked the results.
Has anyone gotten anything over 7.5grams of powder to work good in PowerNutritions Powergel?
I am trying to figure if I want go 7.5grams of 1-T and 2.5 grams of 4-AD , or 5grams of 1-T and 5g of 4-AD.
To be honest it would be more expensive to buy the 7.5/2.5 ratio because i'd have to buy 10grams total of 1-T. Would it be fine to do the 5g/5g ratio?
09-20-2004, 07:20 PM
i wouldn't recommend only running 1-test for 2 weeks generally the effects aren't felt until right around the 2 week mark so it seems kind of pointless
09-20-2004, 07:44 PM
Okay then 3 weeks?
So my total cycle will be
3 wks M1t @ 10mg ED
3 wks 1-T and 4-AD Derm, M5 20-30mg ED.
How long should I cycle off with Nolva? I'll probably add in some Trib too for safe measure.
(And of course i'll be taking my Liver support complex as well as drink lemon juiced water on post cycle.)
09-20-2004, 08:30 PM
The 1-test is going to be more bioavaliable if used in a dermal formula. However, I don't really understand why you would go off of M1T and use a lesser androgen like the one's mentioned. I think you would be better off using the nolva right away, taking a week off, and eating a ****load to restore HPTA.Originally Posted by StriKing_Cobra
09-20-2004, 08:55 PM
09-21-2004, 12:06 AM
save the m5 for the last 2 weeks of a bulking cycle to firm up your gains...do not use 2 methyls in the same cycle though IMO
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