Self Fulfilling Prophecies and methyl steroids
09-23-2009 02:35 PM
Hey guys this is my very first post, before you rip me apart I was in GNC the other day (because it is next to my place and I needed my pwo sup bad) and some guy who never lifted before asked the store rep "what can i take to gain the most muscle" and the guy pointed him right to Methyl-1D and advised him to take, I went over and gave both of them a load of crap...people just don't understand what these things are or how to use them
09-25-2009 07:30 PM
That's DHEA and forskolin isn't it? Not really hugely dangerous.
Originally Posted by jayts22
10-06-2009 05:36 PM
Exactly! I couldn't agree more to this sentiment. I have a younger brother, who has watched my progress through multiple cycles of methylated ph's and real-deal injectables; who has been too eagerly attempting to experiment. It puts me in between a rock and a hard place because part of me wants to tell him to forget about it, hold off, and wait until he is in his mid to late twenties; however, I know that I have responsibility as an older brother to make sure he doesn't cause damage to himself by cycling the improper way. I figured that if he is going to do it, there will be nothing stopping someone with that much motivation. So, he might as well do it the right way under my supervision etc. I even showed him the forum and explained to him how to search different aspects of cycling such as pct, gyno prevention, liver protection etc.
Originally Posted by jminis
10-25-2009 06:50 PM
Wow! Has it really been 5 years.
Originally Posted by B5150
What you and everyone else is failing to recognize is that proper use of poison makes it no less lethal.
Originally Posted by theface
Get back to us in 20 years and let us know if your failing liver or kidneys will forget that you responsibly used poison at 21 or 25.
Not flaming you but at 21 or 25 there is virtually zero foresight and no insight to the value of your health.
01-09-2010 09:07 PM
01-11-2010 12:55 PM
does anyone have any advice on deca-diboldazol
04-06-2010 09:54 AM
Originally Posted by David Dunn
I think the best thing you can do is advise kids on how to do things saftley. if you have ago at a kid do you really think that will put them off ? No. they will just go and **** them self up another way.
Teaching is the key, flaming doesn't work.
How many kids do you think are on gear thease days ? I'd say millions. How many deaths do you hear ?
I'm not justifying kids ****ing them selfs up. I back the kids that do it safetly.
04-06-2010 09:56 AM
Originally Posted by David Dunn
90% of kids in the uk binge drink and get wasted every week end and do drugs. they will be in the same postion as the Anabolic users in there 50's. Not justifying it. Just saying if kids aren't ****ing them selfs up this way. they sure as hell would find another way too.
05-06-2010 03:01 PM
05-06-2010 03:18 PM
It astounds me how society today has become obsessed with their image. My opinion is 85-90% of the guys in this forum using PH, AAS, and such products are not going to step foot on a bodybuilding stage, or compete in strength athletics. You can grow muscle naturally without synthetic help. Everyday athletes dont need that edge, or the risk associated with it. I admit I used the original 4 andro at 24 years old at a low dose for a few weeks. Then at 29 years old I used M1T. I believe that to be old enough to use it, and I used it safely. I dont advocate it. Only for a few as a last resort.
Originally Posted by David Dunn
05-06-2010 03:31 PM
What's scarier is that most have never worked out until they bought OTC steroids.
Originally Posted by Cooky32
05-10-2010 03:03 PM
True. I was for a few years prior. I took powerlifting in High school.
09-06-2010 03:10 AM
09-07-2010 03:25 PM
11-20-2010 03:03 AM
bumping this great discussion here
11-22-2010 09:08 AM
OK, I am getting really pissed off that now superdrol, epistane, and Halodrol are also being discontinued. I about cried when they took TREN. I am finding what is left is getting more expensive, and its almost cheaper to go the real AAS ROUTE. Wow, back in the day I could go get 1AD, 4AD, and 19 NOR, and it was all good. I also had real ECA stacks for fat burning. I am sick of the FDA and pharmaceutical companies, and politicians.
11-22-2010 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by Cooky32
they didnt ban halo, epi and superdrol....I seriously hope your talking about the CEL range or something wtf im scurred halp.
no but seriously?
01-10-2011 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by Heat Miser
I've read many "older" threads about the dangers and warning given out about methylated drugs, but I've also read some threads that were quite the opposite. I have been reading through the discussion postings over the past several months educating myself, going back to as far as 2005, and I was actually shocked at some the advice given out. There was one thread about someone running Superdrol, a 5-6 week cycle, using only OTC PCT, and the member was talking about going directly back on Superdrol 2-3 later, after PCT, other form members were in complete agreement with this....I was really surprised. I guess it also proves how far this community, and anabolic knowledge has progressed in the past several years...
As for the boards conscience its demographic has changed, anabolics, particularly the OTC variety have become more prevalent and its widespread usage has brought on a new a and younger vanguard to the forms limelight. I have noticed that the general consensus, thank god, is to discourage those under 21 from using any type of hormone or hormone activating substance....
The nature of our society has become enamored with and immersed in the idea that anything can be fixed by simply "popping a pill," or perhaps its a product of our collectively dwindling attention spans? Why train hard and eat correctly when you have pills being pimped out that promise you results with the smallest amount of effort, particularly steroids and steroid precursors. Animals will do the least amount of work possible to achieve a particular goal, what makes us any different? I am not pro or anti supplement companies, hell I use a ton of stuff myself, coupled with proper training and clean eating of course, my pet peeve is more with the general stupification of people; similar questions that have been answered again and again on this form are brought up repeatedly, many of these questions could have been solved by a simple Google search with anabolicminds.com in the inquiry or an AM search. I understand that people ask questions because they need answers, and those dealing with roid use, usually are associated with nasty side effects that to be honest can be terrifying, but this is just another example of how people are looking for a quick fix; I would say that theme of an "easy fix" is endemic to our society, and thus rears its ugly head in all societal constructs, including this board.
I should note that I myself posted a large thread about gyno from Hdrol some time back, but I have some very specific questions regarding Nolva dose timings, etc. that I couldn't locate any where on here; I also used the thread to network with other who had suffered similar side effects from a non-aromatizing PH. I also found out with previous, and then more current blood work, that my high estrogen levels during this cycle were caused by a previously unknown hormonal imbalance brought on about from god knows what....
Just my thoughts.....
01-21-2011 05:55 AM
To be honest, I'm only 23 years old and the first time i ever ran a PH I had only been lifting religiously for a year. I was 19 and recovering from an ACL surgery and desperately wanted to get back into shape. A friend told me about IDS Mass Tabs -____- yes i know boys. Mass tabs was my first PH. Anyway the point of all this is that there is nothing we can really do on the boards. It's sort of a catch 22. Some kids are blissfully ignorant of this stuff and just lifts naturally, they are the lucky ones. Others come onto these boards read about how amazing ph's are and walk into their supp stores and purchase them (the fault of the boards). The most dangerous is when an ignorant kid walks into the supplement store like I did, picks up a box of mass tabs and takes them having no idea what PCT is and thinking that it is "all natural" like it says on the box (supplement industry's fault) there is nothing anyone can really do. kinda sucks. just gotta make sure that even if we can't stop these kids from taking them, the best we can do is answer the questions asked because we shouldn't kid ourselves. these boys are gna take them regardless. might as well give them the best shot possible to recover.
01-21-2011 11:14 AM
Its something I have said in the past, and not many wanted to agree with me, but guys are going to do them regardless. Its just life nowadays. I will say I am 35 and I didnt touch anything till 24, or 25 years old. I mostly now only do anything pre contest, and maybe a bulking cycle after deployments.
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