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    I want to get some epistane. What are good clones?


    Im not a noob so spare me.

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    epi-strong and havoc
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    epi-strong and havoc
    this.

    but good luck finding epi-strong...im cycling the last of mine right now
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    damn i didnt even realize it stopped selling at mrsupps

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    Any opinions on Epi-V?
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    Ibe epistane the best!!!
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    I've only used Epi-Strong, but it was fantastic.

    I have some of the LGI Epi-10 stashed away (that was supposed to have actually tested at 11mg/cap).
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    Iron labs epi extreme or chaparral labs epi. Personally love chaparral labs epi. 120caps/10mg per bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    damn i didnt even realize it stopped selling at mrsupps


    What!!! and you rep for ****? could've sworn i seen you at the "epi-strong is gone forever, buy some now" thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    What!!! and you rep for ****? could've sworn i seen you at the "epi-strong is gone forever, buy some now" thread
    took some time off the forums completely. i just started back up with the company today.

    last i recall from that event everyone in the company was saying it would be gone soon, but there were always bottles left to sell lmao... figured there was plenty left

    but i guess it was true, they were limited
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    ahhh yes.. those threads did go on for like 2 or 3 months..even said it was sold out for good like 3 times, then stock suddenly reappeared.

    maybe im thinkin of the transaderm vs demacrine threads...yeah thats where i remember you from..lol was some comedy gold goin on over there
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    Do u know why they stop producing epi strong? It's probaly one of there best seller/popular epi around. It's not on the ban list that i know of. Superdrol for example has lots of heat and suppose to be ban but beastdrol is still being produced
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyn2007 View Post
    Do u know why they stop producing epi strong? It's probaly one of there best seller/popular epi around. It's not on the ban list that i know of. Superdrol for example has lots of heat and suppose to be ban but beastdrol is still being produced
    wish i knew - maybe with there being so many other clones floating around, they just werent selling enough. SD is rumored to be banned sometime this year..so beastdrol is def being pimped out at their site right now
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    Hope bogo comes back one last time before the ban. Ahhh man, stock up time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    ahhh yes.. those threads did go on for like 2 or 3 months..even said it was sold out for good like 3 times, then stock suddenly reappeared.

    maybe im thinkin of the transaderm vs demacrine threads...yeah thats where i remember you from..lol was some comedy gold goin on over there
    lulz

    yea i've been involved in some pretty comedic threads

    Quote Originally Posted by dannyn2007 View Post
    Do u know why they stop producing epi strong? It's probaly one of there best seller/popular epi around. It's not on the ban list that i know of. Superdrol for example has lots of heat and suppose to be ban but beastdrol is still being produced
    i really have no idea.

    you're right, DEA has got their eyes on SD thats well known, it has already been studied and documented to produce jaundice in the literature, some big companies have been sued by consumers over it, and if iirc a stereoisomer of SD had already been banned in 05 (i think)... yet it continues to be sold over and over. you would think bill gates himself is lobbying for f*cking superdrol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk

    lulz

    yea i've been involved in some pretty comedic threads

    i really have no idea.

    you're right, DEA has got their eyes on SD thats well known, it has already been studied and documented to produce jaundice in the literature, some big companies have been sued by consumers over it, and if iirc a stereoisomer of SD had already been banned in 05 (i think)... yet it continues to be sold over and over. you would think bill gates himself is lobbying for f*cking superdrol
    I've seen you posting and i know your intelligent so i had to ask, i know superdrol was banned I'n 05' and cloned again. Now the clone is soon to be banned, is there a possibility to clone a clone (superdrol)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyn2007

    I've seen you posting and i know your intelligent so i had to ask, i know superdrol was banned I'n 05' and cloned again. Now the clone is soon to be banned, is there a possibility to clone a clone (superdrol)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyn2007

    I've seen you posting and i know your intelligent so i had to ask, i know superdrol was banned I'n 05' and cloned again. Now the clone is soon to be banned, is there a possibility to clone a clone (superdrol)?
    How you gonna clone a clone?? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaadGoat
    Any opinions on Epi-V?
    It isn't epi, just a use of the name. Still a good product though.
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    Just get IBE epistane...
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    Quote Originally Posted by punjabimunde

    How you gonna clone a clone?? Lol
    I literally laugh at my posting. Just out of curiosity tho i mean i don't see it impossible
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyn2007

    I literally laugh at my posting. Just out of curiosity tho i mean i don't see it impossible
    Well doing a clone of clone is pretty much same thing...that means its already ban before even coming on market....
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    Quote Originally Posted by punjabimunde
    Just get IBE epistane...
    I never tried Ibe epistane, I'm not bashing it. But saw somewhere online a while back that it was underdose. It was 3.4mg per cap instead of 10mg. I could be wrong. I'll try to find the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyn2007

    I never tried Ibe epistane, I'm not bashing it. But saw somewhere online a while back that it was underdose. It was 3.4mg per cap instead of 10mg. I could be wrong. I'll try to find the post.
    No way....I'm using rite now and I'm up 3lbs in 7days...usually epi don't kick in till week 2...my strength went up...my arms looks bigger and leaner...I still have 4weeks to go...just imagine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyn2007 View Post
    I've seen you posting and i know your intelligent so i had to ask, i know superdrol was banned I'n 05' and cloned again. Now the clone is soon to be banned, is there a possibility to clone a clone (superdrol)?
    when something gets banned, it is the nomenclature that gets banned

    you'll notice all sd out today is listed as the beta isomer. however, there is some thought that the beta isomer is worthless so what's actually in the bottle is the alpha. i guess when they ban the beta in the coming time... companies can start labeling it as the alpha isomer, which it really is lol.

    other than that, the only other stereocenter is carbon 2. so you can rearrange the 2a-methyl to become 2b-methyl and that would be another stereoisomer of SD.

    however it is important to note that stereoisomers can exert completely different properties... so the chances of cloning the clone and getting a functional steroid resembling SD in properties are extremely small
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    Quote Originally Posted by punjabimunde

    No way....I'm using rite now and I'm up 3lbs in 7days...usually epi don't kick in till week 2...my strength went up...my arms looks bigger and leaner...I still have 4weeks to go...just imagine...
    Just look it up on google. It was 3-4 years back i believe. Someone mention pat Arnold also tested it too. It's probaly dosed correctly now. Never tried it. I can't say anything bad. Just saying what i read a while back. I just looked it up and u can still find it on google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by punjabimunde View Post
    No way....I'm using rite now and I'm up 3lbs in 7days...usually epi don't kick in till week 2...my strength went up...my arms looks bigger and leaner...I still have 4weeks to go...just imagine...
    thats awesome man..what dose are you running?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor

    thats awesome man..what dose are you running?
    I'm running for 5weeks...30/40/40/40/50

    So far no sides or anything bad...
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    Yeah interested in what you are dosing yours at as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk

    when something gets banned, it is the nomenclature that gets banned

    you'll notice all sd out today is listed as the beta isomer. however, there is some thought that the beta isomer is worthless so what's actually in the bottle is the alpha. i guess when they ban the beta in the coming time... companies can start labeling it as the alpha isomer, which it really is lol.

    other than that, the only other stereocenter is carbon 2. so you can rearrange the 2a-methyl to become 2b-methyl and that would be another stereoisomer of SD.

    however it is important to note that stereoisomers can exert completely different properties... so the chances of cloning the clone and getting a functional steroid resembling SD in properties are extremely small
    That's what I've been reading. Mdrol was the most talked about using the b isomer but later tested as an a isomer. It was a misprint. Done on purpose? Probaly. Like u mention, companies can start labeling it as an a isomer now. Did u ever hear anything about the DEA are trying to ban all prohormone once and for all? I read somewhere if it's related to a steroid it's ban and they don't need to go through approval and hassle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by punjabimunde View Post
    I'm running for 5weeks...30/40/40/40/50

    So far no sides or anything bad...
    nice! i tried epi at 30-40mg i didnt really get much out of it. 60mg seems to be my sweet spot..

    that said, im running it right now.. week 2 and just bumped up to 60mg
    strength gains are comin in strong - and theres plenty more on the way...as far as sides, nonexistent - thanks to transaderm
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    when something gets banned, it is the nomenclature that gets banned

    you'll notice all sd out today is listed as the beta isomer. however, there is some thought that the beta isomer is worthless so what's actually in the bottle is the alpha. i guess when they ban the beta in the coming time... companies can start labeling it as the alpha isomer, which it really is lol.

    other than that, the only other stereocenter is carbon 2. so you can rearrange the 2a-methyl to become 2b-methyl and that would be another stereoisomer of SD.

    however it is important to note that stereoisomers can exert completely different properties... so the chances of cloning the clone and getting a functional steroid resembling SD in properties are extremely small
    SD was never actually banned in 05. The FDA sent the company selling it (AX at that time I believe) a letter recommending that they stop selling it or face possible consequences. AX took the advice and stopped selling it, but SD was never legally "banned" per say and was not scheduled by the DEA as a controlled substance at that time. This time it looks like it's going to be scheduled by the DEA.

    Nobody ever purposely manufactured or sold a 5b isomer. This would back fire quickly because the 5b isomer of androgens have little to no activity due to the conformational change caused by 5b reduction. As someone else said, any label listing a 5b isomer is probably a misprint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor

    nice! i tried epi at 30-40mg i didnt really get much out of it. 60mg seems to be my sweet spot..

    that said, im running it right now.. week 2 and just bumped up to 60mg
    strength gains are comin in strong - and theres plenty more on the way...as far as sides, nonexistent - thanks to transaderm
    Wow 60 is high lol...well good luck bro...this is my first ph cycle and it's fun already...can't wait till week 3...that's when real gains start coming lol....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyn2007 View Post
    That's what I've been reading. Mdrol was the most talked about using the b isomer but later tested as an a isomer. It was a misprint. Done on purpose? Probaly. Like u mention, companies can start labeling it as an a isomer now. Did u ever hear anything about the DEA are trying to ban all prohormone once and for all? I read somewhere if it's related to a steroid it's ban and they don't need to go through approval and hassle.
    it would make the most sense to ban all PH, since their are alot of different compounds that havent hit the PH market yet. They ban one and soon a new one hits the market. I hope they come up with something great here soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam
    No love for CEL e-stane??? Wowowowow
    I heard there's lots of bunk e stane....not sure but heard alot
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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    it would make the most sense to ban all PH, since their are alot of different compounds that havent hit the PH market yet. They ban one and soon a new one hits the market. I hope they come up with something great here soon.
    a few new ones are out/going to be out by IBE. boladrol is a year or 2 old, trenavar just came out, and mentabolan or whatver u call it is on presale. methylsten/ultradrol is pretty new cause the ones produced before was tested to be superdrol. hopefully they stay out for awhile.
  

  
 

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