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    Clen FAQ by Andy13


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    What is Clenbuterol?

    Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35 hours and not 48 hours.

    Dosing and Cycling

    Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump and injectable form. Doses are very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere in the range of 5-8 tablets per day for men and 1-4 tablets a day for women is most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after 6-8 weeks when body temperature drops back to normal. It's anabolic/anti-catabolic properties fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine can be used in the off weeks.

    Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP

    Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

    DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine short half life prevents it from being all that effective.

    As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a time.

    Side effects

    NAUSEA
    NERVOUSNESS
    DIZZINESS
    DROWSINESS
    DRY MOUTH
    FACIAL FLUSHING
    HEADACHE
    HEARTBURN
    INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
    INCREASED SWEATING
    INSOMNIA
    LIGHTHEADEDNESS
    MUSCLE CRAMPS
    TREMORS
    VOMITING
    CHEST PAIN

    The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and increased blood pressure.

    Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming bananas and oranges or supplementing with GNC potassium tablets at 200-400mg a day taken before bed on an empty stomach.

    Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taken at the first signs of a headache. You may need to take double the recommended dose.

    Common Uses

    Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

    Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness, vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.

    Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be used by non AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

    Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, Carbs must be included in the diet. Keto diet do not work well in this case.

    Precautions: Is Clen for you?

    The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although some people find ECA stacks harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation before a workout for an extra kick, although its diuretic effects may shift electrolyte balance. Drink more water if you use Caffeine.

    What else do I need to know?

    Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within the first 3-4 days of use.

    A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day.

    Example of a first cycle:

    Day1: 20mcg
    Day2: 40mcg
    Day3: 60mcg
    Day4: 80mcg
    Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
    Day6-Day12: 100mcg
    Day13: 80mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually)
    Day14: 60mcg
    Day15: off
    Day16: off
    Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

    Example of a second cycle:

    Day1: 60mcg
    Day2: 80mcg
    Day3: 80mcg
    Day4: 100mcg
    Day5: 100mcg
    Day6-Day12: 120mcg
    Day13: 100mcg
    Day14: 80mcg
    Day15: off
    Day16: off
    Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

    Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water: 1.5-2 gallons a day.

    All brands are not equal when it comes to Clen, different brands will yield different results.

    That about covers everything.

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    Very interesting. Although this is the 'steroid' forum, i want to ask a little bit of a 'lighter' question. Do you have any information on SU/UA regarding effect on metabolism (like ephedrine's 2-3%, clen's 10%)? Clen is a little bit too expensive for my tastes (unless you know of a cheap source you'd be willing to part with :-) )
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    Thats WYD's terrority brother, and no, I dont have sources, steriods are illgegal
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    Originally posted by Sheesh
    Very interesting. Although this is the 'steroid' forum, i want to ask a little bit of a 'lighter' question. Do you have any information on SU/UA regarding effect on metabolism (like ephedrine's 2-3%, clen's 10%)? Clen is a little bit too expensive for my tastes (unless you know of a cheap source you'd be willing to part with :-) )
     

    UA doesn't have the same thermogenic properties as the above listed stimulants.  It works by uncoupling oxidative phosphorylation and forcing your body to oxidize fats to sustain its ATP requirement.  A stimulant with UA stacked together would clearly optimize results through the boost in one's metabolic rate.

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    Originally posted by whosyourdaddy02


     

    UA doesn't have the same thermogenic properties as the above listed stimulants.  It works by uncoupling oxidative phosphorylation and forcing your body to oxidize fats to sustain its ATP requirement.  A stimulant with UA stacked together would clearly optimize results through the boost in one's metabolic rate.

    WYD
     
    I know that UA is an uncoupler, but isn't DNP as well?? And DNP illicits a boost in metabolism, so i figured UA might have similar effects, unless there is more to DNP than it's uncoupling effects, which as far as I know there isn't.
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    The thing about DNP vs UA is that DNP is many time more powerful. UA works but not to the extent that DNP does. There is an post The Truth about UA that talks abut UA and DNP, the basicsthat is the first part of a two part article about DNP
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    Originally posted by YellowJacket
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    Precautions: Is Clen for you?

    The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although some people find ECA stacks harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation before a workout for an extra kick, although its diuretic effects may shift electrolyte balance. Drink more water if you use Caffeine.

    Good FAQ but this part isn't true at all. Actually Yohimbine can be extremely beneficial with Clen.

    "Another good match for clenbuterol in a stack is the plant derivative yohimbine Hcl. It does concern the standardized product yohimbine here and not the raw material yohimbe, which is useless. In small doses of 20-30 mg per day, it can stop the down-regulation of the noradrenaline feedback mechanisms, that usually inhibit the actions of noradrenaline by reducing receptor affinity. This has two important uses. The first is that the length of action of clenbuterol can be enhanced by a few hours when using it together with yohimbine Hcl (although it already has a considerable half-life time7 of 36 hours and one daily dose should suffice) , and the second is that concomitant use of yohimbine Hcl may allow clenbuterol to induce its fatburning aspects on a longer term than the normal 2-3 weeks, so it can be used for 5-6 weeks instead."

    I've also seen people use it with ECA for those that don't get the side effects associated. I can do it but I know certain people that have trouble with the side effects of clen by itself (ahem, WYD) so this is more a personal choice for those that are tolerant.
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    Thats fine brother, but his statements were geared more towards precautionary reasons. Dual stimulation of the sympathetic and parasympathetic systems are a bit of an overkill in my opinion, but to each his own. The crash is worth it.
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    Originally posted by YellowJacket
    Thats fine brother, but his statements were geared more towards precautionary reasons. Dual stimulation of the sympathetic and parasympathetic systems are a bit of an overkill in my opinion, but to each his own. The crash is worth it.
    Depends on your tolerance. Yohimbine HCL, especially transdermally, will not cause any signigicant stimulation. It would be a killer combo. Plus, clen usually has less sides than ECA anyway so adding Yohimbine HCL at 15-20mg (orally) will not cause many side effects.
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    Originally posted by Bobo


    Depends on your tolerance

    ...... will not cause many side effects.

    I agree with #1. #2 is dependant upon #1.
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    Originally posted by YellowJacket
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    I agree with #1. #2 is dependant upon #1.
    Thats why I said orginally its a personal choice depending on your tolerance. Given that Clen usually has less sides than ECA, adding Yohimbine shouldn't be a problem at all.
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    Re: Re: Clen FAQ by Andy13


    Originally posted by Bobo
     
    I can do it but I know certain people that have trouble with the side effects of clen by itself (ahem, WYD) so this is more a personal choice for those that are tolerant.
    Makes me shake like a crack head lookin for a fix

    heh

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    For the record, this clen information is NOT mine at all. It was written by BigAndy69.


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    Damn, this is old
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    How about a dosing schedule similar to the above, except for a female?
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    Here ya go
    Anavar & Clen doses?

    clen dosing is near the bottom of the post.
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    Thanks MB.
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    speaking of females and clen:

    my GF went up to 200mcg daily and didn't get much from it (weird I know). I used the same batch at 200mcgs and had good results Another example of why I will never understand women
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